CORSA 2012: Convention Concours schedule (UNCLASSIFIED)

[O'Neill, Brian M CTR USA]

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Mike,
	Thanks for the vote of confidence.  If we hold the concours
awards on Saturday near the end of the car display; get the local radio
station to do a remote at the display and work on getting as much local
publicity as possible; we will have a great day. Plus great PR for
Corvairs.

-----Original Message-----
From: michel paroz [mailto:mparoz1 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:11 AM
To: O'Neill, Brian M CTR USA
Cc: 2012 Convention
Subject: Re: CORSA 2012: Convention Concours schedule (UNCLASSIFIED)

You are the Boss so if you think the new proposal is ok, let's do it.
But I am still desapointed as showing the cars on Saturday when peoples
are out of work. It would have been a real good PR.
Michel(mike) Paroz


On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:53 PM, O'Neill, Brian M CTR USA
<brian.oneill1 at us.army.mil> wrote:


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	On Saturday during the car display, I had a meeting with Jamie
Reinhardt
	the CORSA president, Jim Allen the CORSA Concours chair, Larry
Claypool
	the Concours classification and operational check guy, Jason our
	regional director and Bay State member.  Also in attendance was
Harry
	Jensen the CORSA Executive secretary. The purpose of the meeting
was to
	review the positions of the attendees regarding our proposes
convention
	schedule that had the Concours and car display on Saturday.  It
was
	apparent to me that no decision regarding the proposed schedule
had been
	made by the CORSA BOD.  I had a number of conversations during
the week
	with some of the Board members to gage the support for our
position but
	wasn't sure there would be enough votes if it came to a
showdown.
	
	
	
	During the week, I had discovered that this convention was only
the
	second time a computer based scoring was used.  I'm not ignoring
the
	1984 NJACE Parsippany convention.  However since then the
Concours
	judging has exploded. There are now seven or eight sheets per
car to be
	entered into the data base.  Last year's 10 people and nine
hours
	project didn't happen this time. It was much, much faster this
year.
	However, the posting of the scores is till a major operation.  I
watched
	the posting and it is time consuming.  Practice will reduce the
time
	required. Short of totally reforming the whole concours scoring
system,
	there isn't much that can be done to reduce the time required.
	Reforming the concours isn't what we need to do to have a
successful
	convention.
	
	
	
	The first part of the meeting was all opinion about who would
and would
	not come because we intended to have the Concours on Saturday
after the
	moving events.  The same old 'the cars will get dirty' talk. I
said we
	should concentrate on the facts not 'what ifs'. We reviewed the
time
	required to post the scores and all agreed that it was better
not still
	requires hours to complete.  It was obvious to me that no
changes to the
	whole mutli-sheet process was going to happen.
	
	
	
	In my mind, there were only a couple of options.  One was to
bow to
	pressure, change our whole schedule and have the concours first.
I
	wasn't ready to make this major concession.  Another option was
to make
	it a 'take it or leave it' choice for the Board.  In spite of my
	hardnosed attitude before the convention, I knew that neither us
nor
	CORSA would benefit from this.  I was searching for some sort of
	compromise. I was about to propose moving the concours to Friday
when
	Jim Allen the concours chair made the same proposal. I was
thrilled
	because he was willing to accept that the concours would happen
after
	the moving events. The only thing he asked was that we end the
Thursday
	rally around 4 PM so they can classify and operational check the
cars
	that evening.  I think we can accommodate that.
	
	
	
	I told the group that I thought we could live with this but that
I had
	to check the  NECC folks. Personally, I support this compromise.
As I
	mentioned , it would take a complete revamping of the whole
concours
	scoring business to reduce the time requirements for posting.
Doing the
	Concours on Saturday makes the trophies a real headache, one we
don't
	need.  Please let me know your position on this.
	
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