CORSA 2012: Convention Concours schedule

[Lacki, Allan V]

Not to pile on, but.....  

If we proceed to do judging on Friday and rolling awards at the show on Saturday, we will be asking the Concours people to display their cars two days instead of one day.  That's a lot of show time for a three-day convention.  

I think a lot of the Concours people will not be inclined to keep their cars on field for the entire show on Saturday.  Instead, they'll just arrive for the awards-portion of the Saturday show, in which case, the public won't have much time to see them.  That would defeat the purpose of having the show on Saturday in the first place.

Also, if we do the Concours judging on Friday and the Car Display on Saturday, then we will burn up nearly two full days, parking and staging cars.

It's probably way too late to consider this for 2012, but the best compromise might be to start the convention on a Saturday or Sunday.  Schedule the Concours and Car Display on the first day of the convention, let the public and the media in to see the cars that same weekend, and then conduct all the other activities on the remaining days.  

That aside, I suggest we stick with the original plan.  Concours on Saturday.  Streamline the judging process.  Get the trophies ready before the judging is complete.  If possible, do the rolling awards ceremony late Saturday afternoon, before the banquet begins.  Generally, I like the idea of having a rolling-awards presentation for the Concours cars.

Al Lacki




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Subject: Re: CORSA 2012: Convention Concours schedule

I could be convinced that the Friday-concours compromise is worthwhile, 
especially if the concours committee agrees to the idea of doing the 
awards during the Saturday show.  This will permit us to preserve our 
big Saturday show.

However, looking further at Brian's original message, the concours 
committee continues to hold the entire convention hostage to their 
event.  They ask that we end Thursday's rally by 4 PM and set aside time 
afterward for classification and ops checks.  So now our road rally's 
available time frame is tightened and more importantly, our planned 
times for the evening activities, including the CORSA annual meeting, 
are now encroached upon by the concours.

Remember the CORSA annual meeting?  One of the elements of the 
convention that is actually REQUIRED?  One of the elements that we 
sought to make more appealing by combining it with a social event?

In truth, the road rally should be concluded by 4 PM anyway, so that is 
no hardship.  What IS a hardship is that concours participants will now 
have to go through the classification and ops check process instead of 
enjoying some downtime before the evening's events.

Given CORSA's track record for conducting the classification and ops 
check process in a timely manner, the concours participants will like 
miss dinner, the CPF meeting, the annual meeting, or all three.  And 
when will the road rally participants find time the clean their cars for 
the concours?  Originally we gave them all of Friday for that.  Now they 
must fit it in where they can.  Midnight, perhaps.

Oh -- and the casual enthusiast?  He now must commit to being there 
Thursday and Friday.  Y'know, some people work for a living.  Our 
overall concours participation just shrank.

Again, I could accept the Friday concours compromise, especially with 
the innovative idea of doing the concours awards as part of the big 
Saturday car show.  But fer crissakes do the classification and ops 
checks as just another part of the process on Friday.  Add a team of 
judges who do ops checks.  Add a team of judges who do classification.  
There is no reason -- NO REASON -- that cars have to be classified 
before the judging begins.  There is no reason -- NO REASON -- for the 
concours to consume multiple days.

CORSA's concours process is totally, totally absurd, and it's death grip 
on convention planning is toxic.

--Bob Marlow




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