CORSA 2012: Economy Run and more

Tue Mar 8 15:17:13 EST 2011

I think it is possable to run a rally and econo on the same day with out to
much trouble.  How about running an econo run away from the hotel to a check
in point and the rally on a different route returning to the hotel.  That
way they see different areas.  Each should take around 1 1/2 hours (70
miles) to complete.  Maybe the changing point could be a lunch stop.

The econo run first solves the gas problem and there would have to be a gas
station at the end of the econo run.  The rally is a time distance run and
they would have plenty of gas for the return drive back to the hotel.  It
would need two routes to be planned and I think that is the hard part unless
someone really knows the area.

Ward Bourgondien

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:01 AM, <rbuckridge at comcast.net> wrote:

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> Bruce,
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> Actually it could work out very well.
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> From what I have seen in the past, drivers try to stretch the rules where
> they can in either a rally or econo run. While "some what legal" it goes
> against the spirit of the event. The MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT in either event
> is to HAVE FUN with the car and not a WIN AT ALL COSTS type of thinking.
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> Even if the rally were a TSD rally, you could still incorporate an econo
> run as part of the TSD rally. OK drivers, here is your TSD rally, we will
> award trophies for the top 3 cars in class for being on time and also the
> top 3 cars in class for the best fuel mileage. It is really that SIMPLE.
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> Yea, a lot of people will bitch and moan but those COULD BE the rules of
> the game. Chose to play or sit on the side lines.
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> This is not rocket science, just go out and have fun with the car. Aren't
> people there for fun and to meet other Corvair people and to catch up on the
> latest news?
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> I do like the "let's try something different" approach. Keep it fresh and
> new instead of the same old convention since the beginning of time.
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> As to CORSA RULES for running a rally or econo run, shouldn't rules be of
> an advisory nature and not cast in stone? CORSA just may be wrong in some of
> the rules or their ideas. But there I go tugging on Superman's cape again.
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> Sorry for the rant Bruce (and to the rest of the members of this board),
> this is why I tend to keep out of these discussions.
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> Roy
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Carlton" <bcarlice at yahoo.com>
> To: rbuckridge at comcast.net, "Vairtec Corporation" <Vairtec at optonline.net>
> Cc: conv-2012 at corvair.org
>  Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2011 8:44:53 AM
> Subject: Re: CORSA 2012: Economy Run and more
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> I have never run a CORSA convention econo run, but if the rules allow it as
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> driving technique, I would think that an econo run combined with a rallye
> would
> not work because the techniques used to extract max mileage would be
> counter to
> those in driving a rallye.
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> Bruce C
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "rbuckridge at comcast.net" <rbuckridge at comcast.net>
> To: Vairtec Corporation <Vairtec at optonline.net>
> Cc: conv-2012 at corvair.org
> Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 10:43:44 PM
> Subject: Re: CORSA 2012: Economy Run and more
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> I don't want to add fuel to the fire, but, I fail to see why a rally &
> econo run
> couldn't be run over the same course.
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> Unless things have changed a lot, isn't the hard work laying out the route?
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> I guess I must be missing something?
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> Roy
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vairtec Corporation" <Vairtec at optonline.net>
> To: "Jason Cesana" <corvair1960 at cox.net>, conv-2012 at corvair.org
> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2011 10:23:44 PM
> Subject: Re: CORSA 2012: Economy Run and more
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> Jason, stop listening to the tiny handful of people for whom the sun
> rises and sets on the concours and listen instead to people like the
> 102 Corvair owners who came to the Clark's show on a SATURDAY last year.
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> The Saturday concours will attract more new participants than it will turn
> off.
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> Stop catering to small focus groups like those who like an econo
> run.  They'll have one this year in Denver and if they step up to run
> a future convention they can schedule what they like.  I'd rather
> "alienate" the tired old thinkers and attract new blood.  I'd rather
> change it up,  make it fresh, and -- most importantly to me -- make
> it different from year-to-year.
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> The more this convention morphs toward being just another same-ol
> CORSA convention, the less interest I have.
>
> --Bob Marlow
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> At 09:10 PM 3/7/2011, Jason Cesana wrote:
> >While I respect the NECC for trying to do a different convention I feel I
> >must speak to the latest development about the dropping of the economy
> run.
> >I know it is not a requirement to hold one but please keep this in mind;
> we
> >are already upsetting the concours people do we REALLY want to alienate
> more
> >participants? The economy run is a measure of one's ability to get ones
> car
> >running to peak performance. This is a VERY popular event. Corvair owners,
> >heck even modern car owners, strive to get their cars running to the
> >absolute best possible running condition. Showing the abilities of the car
> >and the owner is a matter of bragging rights and mechanical prowess. I
> URGE
> >the NECC to reconsider this event.
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> >
> >Jason Cesana
> >
> >CORSA Vice President
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> >CPF Vice President
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> >Eastern Director
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> >Bay State Corvair Club
> >
> >1960 Caveman Corvairs
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