[FC] RE: Corvanatics Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
Steve Turner
karknut61 at msn.com
Wed Jul 13 15:08:51 EDT 2005
Hello Corvair lovers; I have a problem, or more precisely, our '66
convertible has one. As I backed out of the garage the other day I heard a
clunk from the front of the car and upon checking noted that the right upper
A arm had broken completely through. I inspected the other side but noted
no similar break but further inspection did reveal that the cross member is
rusting and looks suspect to me. My first question is has anyone used the
'patch' sold by Clarks to strengthen the cross member or is it better to try
and find a good southwest cross member? My second question is since the
front end will be taken apart does it make sense and replace all components,
upper and lower, bushings etc, etc.? Finally does anyone have a nice clean
cross member for sale or other good, solid front end parts or could
recommend a source for same? Thanks for past help and I hope to hear back
soon as we hope to get the old gal back on the road as soon as possible.
Steve
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>Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:36:21 -0400
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> 1. Re: The fan has been hit..... the final Greenbrier
> countdown... (Wild8bill at aol.com)
> 2. Update on my brake problem (Wild8bill at aol.com)
> 3. RE: Update on my brake problem (Western Canada CORSA)
> 4. Re: Update on my brake problem (Bryan Blackwell)
> 5. Re: the fan has been hit (EconoUSAParts at aol.com)
> 6. Van Nationals (EconoUSAParts at aol.com)
> 7. the fan is seriously dented... day two on the GB
> (Merv Krull and or Loretta Prosser)
> 8. Re: Update on my brake problem (N2VZD at aol.com)
> 9. Re: the fan is seriously dented... day two on the GB
> (VairMech at aol.com)
> 10. Re: Van Nationals (Ben's Bus)
> 11. Re: Van Nationals (Paul Steinberg)
>
>
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>
>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:48:25 EDT
>From: Wild8bill at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [FC] The fan has been hit..... the final Greenbrier
> countdown...
>To: corvanatics at corvair.org
>Message-ID: <1db.3f67653c.30054e59 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>It had better be pretty damn good; I'm doing all the work myself, including
>replacing an entire smashed in front end, for the cost of materials. Of
>course,
>I'm not working on a "show" car, and I'm a real cheapskate.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:53:34 EDT
>From: Wild8bill at aol.com
>Subject: [FC] Update on my brake problem
>To: corvanatics at corvair.org
>Message-ID: <213.489e465.30054f8e at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>I think I figured it out, but thanks to everyone who offered their two
>cents.
>I realized that my hand brake has to be pulled almost out to the steering
>wheel to engage; so I think that the MC just can't push enough fluid to
>engage
>the pads (hence having to "pump up the brakes"). I ordered a brake superkit
>from
>Lon, it's probably overdue for all the brakey stuff, anyway. I would have
>thought the dual MC would have at least engaged the front brakes, but then
>again
>I have that forever bubbling while bleeding rt front wheel (bad wheel
>cylinder?). So, both front and back were going bad at the same time for
>different
>reasons; or so I think.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:31:12 -0700
>From: Western Canada CORSA <westerncanadacorsa at shaw.ca>
>Subject: RE: [FC] Update on my brake problem
>To: "'The Corvanatics list'" <corvanatics at corvair.org>
>Message-ID: <001101c5870f$e1ada540$0f0fa8c0 at VALUED3253602F>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Your parking brake operates independently of the wheel cylinders. Let out
>the tension on the cable so there is no takeup on the pad part of the
>mechanism. Then adjust the rear shoes manually with the adjusting wheel so
>that they juuuuuuuust begin to touch the drums when it they are spun. (Had
>your drums turned lately? If not, you may have a rather large lip on the
>leading edge of the drum, making it difficult or impossible to get the drum
>on/off when the shoes are properly set) Now adjust the tension on the
>parking brake cable. CORSA Concours says the parking brake should be at
>full lock by the fouth click of the handle. The only reason your parking
>brake would not work, would be improperly set up pads, and this could also
>be (at least part of) the cause of your other brake problems.
>
>Regards,
>Joel
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: corvanatics-bounces at corvair.org
>[mailto:corvanatics-bounces at corvair.org]On Behalf Of Wild8bill at aol.com
>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:54 AM
>To: corvanatics at corvair.org
>Subject: [FC] Update on my brake problem
>
>
>I think I figured it out, but thanks to everyone who offered their two
>cents.
>I realized that my hand brake has to be pulled almost out to the steering
>wheel to engage; so I think that the MC just can't push enough fluid to
>engage
>the pads (hence having to "pump up the brakes"). I ordered a brake superkit
>from
>Lon, it's probably overdue for all the brakey stuff, anyway. I would have
>thought the dual MC would have at least engaged the front brakes, but then
>again
>I have that forever bubbling while bleeding rt front wheel (bad wheel
>cylinder?). So, both front and back were going bad at the same time for
>different
>reasons; or so I think.
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>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:05:49 -0400
>From: Bryan Blackwell <bryan at skiblack.com>
>Subject: Re: [FC] Update on my brake problem
>To: The Corvanatics list <corvanatics at corvair.org>
>Message-ID: <a3646250e5c8be9340e98e90aa1a8d79 at skiblack.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>I've run into this same problem with shoes that were out of adjustment.
> Drum brakes require the shoes to be touching to really work correctly.
>
>--
>Bryan Blackwell bryan at skiblack.com
>http://autoxer.skiblack.com/
> Corvairs: '61 Lakewood, '64 Greenbrier, '65 Corsa, '66 Corsa
> '69 Road Runner, '97 Ford F-150, '99 Neon R/T
>"Why do something if you're not going to obsess about it?"
>On Jul 12, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Wild8bill at aol.com wrote:
>
> > I think I figured it out, but thanks to everyone who offered their two
> > cents.
> > I realized that my hand brake has to be pulled almost out to the
> > steering
> > wheel to engage; so I think that the MC just can't push enough fluid
> > to engage
> > the pads (hence having to "pump up the brakes").
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:36:52 EDT
>From: EconoUSAParts at aol.com
>Subject: [FC] Re: the fan has been hit
>To: corvanatics at corvair.org
>Message-ID: <6.48d66389.3005e654 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> This is a real sore topic with me. Its been my experience several
>times
>over that you never pay more than a 1/3 down,and another third when work is
>making good progress,and finally pay the rest WHEN ITS FINISHED,NOT BEFORE.
>Been
>there and done it,heard all the excuses,trust me on this one,once they have
>all the money the motivation to finish and do a good job is LONG GONE.
>Never
>pay in full until you inspect the whole paint job and any flaws have been
>fixed.
>Furthermore never pay ahead on work,pay after work is completed. You will
>usually lose when you pay 1st. Find a shop who has a decent business and
>can
>survive a week without you for their paycheck. Ive used little guys but I
>usually
>buy only the materials and pay labor after work is complete.
> Its hard to say whats fair on price without seeing the vehicle and
>how
>much work is done to it. I ve paid anywhere from $1200 to $5000 depending
>on
>the quality of work expected and amount of work to be done.
> My last paint job turned disasterous after the body work was done
>and
>van in primer the guy decided to back out, that he had way underbid,after
>bragging about his 40 years of custom experience. Pretty sad that you cant
>bid a
>job with 40 years of experience and at least be somewhat close. The bid was
>$3500 and that was for a rust free body that I totally stripped prior to
>the shop
>getting it. I offered to kick in another $1000 but the guy tucked his tail
>and ran. A real nightmare to get someone else to complete and guarantee a
>paint
>job on someone elses prep work.
> Its in another shop now finally getting done.
>
> Tim in Ky
> Econo USA Parts
> Your used 61-67 Econoline parts source
> Constantly parting out E100 vans and trucks
> A100 parts also available
>
> Ebay Falcon1966
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:01:22 EDT
>From: EconoUSAParts at aol.com
>Subject: [FC] Van Nationals
>To: corvanatics at corvair.org
>Message-ID: <1d7.4063354e.3005ec12 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> I attended the Van Nationals this past weekend in Pennsylvania. I drove
>my
>72 Dodge van since the fuel pump on the Vair is out again,familiar story so
>I
>ve read on the site. I just got one from Clark's though so hopefully it
>will
>fix it for good.
>Anyhow,there were over 20 early Chev/GMC models,12 early Fords,and about 10
>Dodge A100 vans in attendance. My question for the 2nd year in a row is,
>where
>the hell were all the Vairs? Im hoping for a different outcome next year so
>plan accordingly folks. Next years event is held in Harrisburg,Va.
>
>
> Tim in Ky
> Econo USA Parts
> Your used 61-67 Econoline parts source
> Constantly parting out E100 vans and trucks
> A100 parts also available
>
> Ebay Falcon1966
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:26:36 -0700
>From: "Merv Krull and or Loretta Prosser" <krupross at sunwave.net>
>Subject: [FC] the fan is seriously dented... day two on the GB
>To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>, <corvairs at cybrus.net>
>Message-ID: <000e01c58773$d21b7210$811b8d40 at mervxczf0ea8rk>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Cleaned the motor hanging on a hoist and hitting it with an awesome varsol
>spray air rig that knocks the crap out of all the oily gunk real quick,
>dropped the oil pan to have a look inside and fix the dents in it....
>bolted the shields back on. Decided I have a 102hp.... and everything looks
>real good inside. Very happy!!!
>Cleaned the tranny/diffy unit the same way, pilot bearing excellent,
>throwout bearing excellent, bolted it back on to the motor, dropped the
>oil, had a look see inside, changed the shifter seal, replaced the other u
>joint, very happy!!!
>Started cleaning up the engine bay.... what a mess from the fenders over
>the rear wheels being bowed out from the rear end accident which was not
>fixed properly... now reasonably clean.
>Greased one rear bearing with a needle and synthetic grease.... lots of the
>old gunk was forced out.... gonna do the the other one tomorrow. That's 24
>hours.... see ya tomorrow!
>Oh yeah... Charles Wrobel.... your springs are actually shorter than
>mine... sorry it took so long.... shall I drop them off at your place or
>will you be in Portland?
>I guess I am gonna hafta shorten the front springs or put load helper
>springs on the rear shocks to level the GB out.
>toodles
>Merv Krull
>Salmon Arm, BC
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 05:57:31 EDT
>From: N2VZD at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [FC] Update on my brake problem
>To: corvanatics at corvair.org
>Message-ID: <db.2994d699.30063f8b at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>also grinding the shoes to fit the drums helps (arcing).
>regards, tim colson
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:58:41 EDT
>From: VairMech at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [FC] the fan is seriously dented... day two on the GB
>To: corvanatics at corvair.org
>Message-ID: <ff.175bfd92.30064de1 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>
>In a message dated 7/13/2005 2:27:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>krupross at sunwave.net writes:
>
>guess I am gonna hafta shorten the front springs or put load helper
>springs
>on the rear shocks to level the GB out.
>
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Or, you get my spring and shock kit that lowers the front by almost
>2"
>and makes the front act like a Cadillac.
> Ken Hand
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 10
>Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:13:44 -0400
>From: "Ben's Bus" <bensbus at paonline.com>
>Subject: Re: [FC] Van Nationals
>To: "The Corvanatics list" <corvanatics at corvair.org>
>Message-ID: <001c01c587a4$638da260$9fa5dcd8 at stileshome>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>Where in PA was it this year? Had I know I might have tried to attend.
>Seems
>like it would be cool to be with a whole bunch of people who actually
>appreciate vans. Not like most of the Corvair car people I pass, waving my
>arm off, being shunned as if they don't even know that Corvair vans
>existed.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <EconoUSAParts at aol.com>
>To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:01 AM
>Subject: [FC] Van Nationals
>
>
> I attended the Van Nationals this past weekend in Pennsylvania. I drove
>my
>72 Dodge van since the fuel pump on the Vair is out again,familiar story so
>I
>ve read on the site. I just got one from Clark's though so hopefully it
>will
>fix it for good.
>Anyhow,there were over 20 early Chev/GMC models,12 early Fords,and about 10
>Dodge A100 vans in attendance. My question for the 2nd year in a row is,
>where
>the hell were all the Vairs? Im hoping for a different outcome next year so
>plan accordingly folks. Next years event is held in Harrisburg,Va.
>
>
> Tim in Ky
>Econo USA Parts
>Your used 61-67 Econoline parts source
>Constantly parting out E100 vans and trucks
>A100 parts also available
>
>Ebay Falcon1966
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>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 11
>Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:34:26 -0400
>From: "Paul Steinberg" <noahsarkinc at earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: [FC] Van Nationals
>To: "The Corvanatics list" <corvanatics at corvair.org>
>Message-ID: <001101c587a7$3521e870$0e0ab118 at b2j7k01>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>When did Chevrolet Corvair makes vans??????? I always thought that they
>were station wagons without windows...... ;-)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ben's Bus
> To: The Corvanatics list
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [FC] Van Nationals
>
>
> Where in PA was it this year? Had I know I might have tried to attend.
>Seems
> like it would be cool to be with a whole bunch of people who actually
> appreciate vans. Not like most of the Corvair car people I pass, waving
>my
> arm off, being shunned as if they don't even know that Corvair vans
>existed.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <EconoUSAParts at aol.com>
> To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:01 AM
> Subject: [FC] Van Nationals
>
>
> I attended the Van Nationals this past weekend in Pennsylvania. I
>drove
> my
> 72 Dodge van since the fuel pump on the Vair is out again,familiar story
>so
> I
> ve read on the site. I just got one from Clark's though so hopefully it
>will
> fix it for good.
> Anyhow,there were over 20 early Chev/GMC models,12 early Fords,and about
>10
> Dodge A100 vans in attendance. My question for the 2nd year in a row is,
> where
> the hell were all the Vairs? Im hoping for a different outcome next year
>so
> plan accordingly folks. Next years event is held in Harrisburg,Va.
>
>
> Tim in Ky
> Econo USA Parts
> Your used 61-67 Econoline parts source
> Constantly parting out E100 vans and trucks
> A100 parts also available
>
> Ebay Falcon1966
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