[FC] RE: Corvanatics Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9

Greg & Virginia walthours at starpower.net
Wed Jul 13 20:23:14 EDT 2005


Steve:  The best of luck with your crossmember replacement!  I'm sure
someone from the list can help you out; however, first we need to know where
you are located!  Shipping for even a bare crossmember would probably be a
small fortune...  Greg in Alexandria, Virginia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Turner" <karknut61 at msn.com>
To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 3:08 PM
Subject: [FC] RE: Corvanatics Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9


> Hello Corvair lovers;  I have a problem, or more precisely, our '66
> convertible has one.  As I backed out of the garage the other day I heard
a
> clunk from the front of the car and upon checking noted that the right
upper
> A arm had broken completely through.  I inspected the other side but noted
> no similar break but further inspection did reveal that the cross member
is
> rusting and looks suspect to me.  My first question is has anyone used the
> 'patch' sold by Clarks to strengthen the cross member or is it better to
try
> and find a good southwest cross member?  My second question is since the
> front end will be taken apart does it make sense and replace all
components,
> upper and lower, bushings etc, etc.?  Finally does anyone have a nice
clean
> cross member for sale or other good, solid front end parts or could
> recommend a source for same?  Thanks for past help and I hope to hear back
> soon as we hope to get the old gal back on the road as soon as possible.
> Steve
> >From: corvanatics-request at corvair.org
> >Reply-To: corvanatics at corvair.org
> >To: corvanatics at corvair.org
> >Subject: Corvanatics Digest, Vol 6, Issue 9
> >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:36:21 -0400
> >
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> >Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Re: The fan has been hit..... the final Greenbrier
> >       countdown... (Wild8bill at aol.com)
> >    2. Update on my brake problem (Wild8bill at aol.com)
> >    3. RE: Update on my brake problem (Western Canada CORSA)
> >    4. Re: Update on my brake problem (Bryan Blackwell)
> >    5. Re: the fan has been hit (EconoUSAParts at aol.com)
> >    6. Van Nationals (EconoUSAParts at aol.com)
> >    7. the fan is seriously dented... day two on the GB
> >       (Merv Krull and or Loretta Prosser)
> >    8. Re: Update on my brake problem (N2VZD at aol.com)
> >    9. Re: the fan is seriously dented... day two on the GB
> >       (VairMech at aol.com)
> >   10. Re: Van Nationals (Ben's Bus)
> >   11. Re: Van Nationals (Paul Steinberg)
> >
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:48:25 EDT
> >From: Wild8bill at aol.com
> >Subject: Re: [FC] The fan has been hit..... the final Greenbrier
> > countdown...
> >To: corvanatics at corvair.org
> >Message-ID: <1db.3f67653c.30054e59 at aol.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> >It had better be pretty damn good; I'm doing all the work myself,
including
> >replacing an entire smashed in front end, for the cost of materials. Of
> >course,
> >I'm not working on a "show" car, and I'm a real cheapskate.
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 2
> >Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:53:34 EDT
> >From: Wild8bill at aol.com
> >Subject: [FC] Update on my brake problem
> >To: corvanatics at corvair.org
> >Message-ID: <213.489e465.30054f8e at aol.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> >I think I figured it out, but thanks to everyone who offered their two
> >cents.
> >I realized that my hand brake has to be pulled almost out to the steering
> >wheel to engage; so I think that the MC just can't push enough fluid to
> >engage
> >the pads (hence having to "pump up the brakes"). I ordered a brake
superkit
> >from
> >Lon, it's probably overdue for all the brakey stuff, anyway. I would have
> >thought the dual MC would have at least engaged the front brakes, but
then
> >again
> >I have that forever bubbling while bleeding rt front wheel (bad wheel
> >cylinder?). So, both front and back were going bad at the same time for
> >different
> >reasons; or so I think.
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 3
> >Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:31:12 -0700
> >From: Western Canada CORSA <westerncanadacorsa at shaw.ca>
> >Subject: RE: [FC] Update on my brake problem
> >To: "'The Corvanatics list'" <corvanatics at corvair.org>
> >Message-ID: <001101c5870f$e1ada540$0f0fa8c0 at VALUED3253602F>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >Your parking brake operates independently of the wheel cylinders.  Let
out
> >the tension on the cable so there is no takeup on the pad part of the
> >mechanism.  Then adjust the rear shoes manually with the adjusting wheel
so
> >that they juuuuuuuust begin to touch the drums when it they are spun.
(Had
> >your drums turned lately?  If not, you may have a rather large lip on the
> >leading edge of the drum, making it difficult or impossible to get the
drum
> >on/off when the shoes are properly set) Now adjust the tension on the
> >parking brake cable.  CORSA Concours says the parking brake should be at
> >full lock by the fouth click of the handle.  The only reason your parking
> >brake would not work, would be improperly set up pads, and this could
also
> >be (at least part of) the cause of your other brake problems.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Joel
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: corvanatics-bounces at corvair.org
> >[mailto:corvanatics-bounces at corvair.org]On Behalf Of Wild8bill at aol.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:54 AM
> >To: corvanatics at corvair.org
> >Subject: [FC] Update on my brake problem
> >
> >
> >I think I figured it out, but thanks to everyone who offered their two
> >cents.
> >I realized that my hand brake has to be pulled almost out to the steering
> >wheel to engage; so I think that the MC just can't push enough fluid to
> >engage
> >the pads (hence having to "pump up the brakes"). I ordered a brake
superkit
> >from
> >Lon, it's probably overdue for all the brakey stuff, anyway. I would have
> >thought the dual MC would have at least engaged the front brakes, but
then
> >again
> >I have that forever bubbling while bleeding rt front wheel (bad wheel
> >cylinder?). So, both front and back were going bad at the same time for
> >different
> >reasons; or so I think.
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> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 4
> >Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:05:49 -0400
> >From: Bryan Blackwell <bryan at skiblack.com>
> >Subject: Re: [FC] Update on my brake problem
> >To: The Corvanatics list <corvanatics at corvair.org>
> >Message-ID: <a3646250e5c8be9340e98e90aa1a8d79 at skiblack.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >
> >I've run into this same problem with shoes that were out of adjustment.
> >   Drum brakes require the shoes to be touching to really work correctly.
> >
> >--
> >Bryan Blackwell bryan at skiblack.com
> >http://autoxer.skiblack.com/
> >    Corvairs: '61 Lakewood, '64 Greenbrier, '65 Corsa, '66 Corsa
> >    '69 Road Runner, '97 Ford F-150, '99 Neon R/T
> >"Why do something if you're not going to obsess about it?"
> >On Jul 12, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Wild8bill at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > I think I figured it out, but thanks to everyone who offered their two
> > > cents.
> > > I realized that my hand brake has to be pulled almost out to the
> > > steering
> > > wheel to engage; so I think that the MC just can't push enough fluid
> > > to engage
> > > the pads (hence having to "pump up the brakes").
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 5
> >Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:36:52 EDT
> >From: EconoUSAParts at aol.com
> >Subject: [FC] Re: the fan has been hit
> >To: corvanatics at corvair.org
> >Message-ID: <6.48d66389.3005e654 at aol.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> >
> >      This is a real sore topic with me. Its been my experience several
> >times
> >over that you never pay more than a 1/3 down,and another third when work
is
> >making good progress,and finally pay the rest WHEN ITS FINISHED,NOT
BEFORE.
> >Been
> >there and done it,heard all the excuses,trust me on this one,once they
have
> >all the money the motivation to finish and do a good job is LONG GONE.
> >Never
> >pay in full until you inspect the whole paint job and any flaws have been
> >fixed.
> >Furthermore never pay ahead on work,pay after work is completed. You will
> >usually lose when you pay 1st. Find a shop who has a decent business and
> >can
> >survive a week without you for their paycheck. Ive used little guys but I
> >usually
> >buy only the materials and pay labor after work is complete.
> >        Its hard to say whats fair on price without seeing the vehicle
and
> >how
> >much work is done to it. I ve paid anywhere from $1200 to $5000 depending
> >on
> >the quality of work expected and amount of work to be done.
> >        My last paint job turned disasterous after the body work was done
> >and
> >van in primer the guy decided to back out, that he had way underbid,after
> >bragging about his 40 years of custom experience. Pretty sad that you
cant
> >bid a
> >job with 40 years of experience and at least be somewhat close. The bid
was
> >$3500 and that was for a rust free body that I totally stripped prior to
> >the shop
> >getting it. I offered to kick in another $1000 but the guy tucked his
tail
> >and ran. A real nightmare to get someone else to complete and guarantee a
> >paint
> >job on someone elses prep work.
> >        Its in another shop now finally getting done.
> >
> >                                                        Tim in Ky
> > Econo USA Parts
> > Your used 61-67 Econoline parts source
> > Constantly parting out E100 vans and trucks
> > A100 parts also available
> >
> > Ebay Falcon1966
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 6
> >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:01:22 EDT
> >From: EconoUSAParts at aol.com
> >Subject: [FC] Van Nationals
> >To: corvanatics at corvair.org
> >Message-ID: <1d7.4063354e.3005ec12 at aol.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
> >
> >    I attended the Van Nationals this past weekend in Pennsylvania. I
drove
> >my
> >72 Dodge van since the fuel pump on the Vair is out again,familiar story
so
> >I
> >ve read on the site. I just got one from Clark's though so hopefully it
> >will
> >fix it for good.
> >Anyhow,there were over 20 early Chev/GMC models,12 early Fords,and about
10
> >Dodge A100 vans in attendance. My question for the 2nd year in a row is,
> >where
> >the hell were all the Vairs? Im hoping for a different outcome next year
so
> >plan accordingly folks. Next years event is held in Harrisburg,Va.
> >
> >
> >                                                        Tim in Ky
> > Econo USA Parts
> > Your used 61-67 Econoline parts source
> > Constantly parting out E100 vans and trucks
> > A100 parts also available
> >
> > Ebay Falcon1966
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 7
> >Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:26:36 -0700
> >From: "Merv Krull and or Loretta Prosser" <krupross at sunwave.net>
> >Subject: [FC] the fan is seriously dented... day two on the GB
> >To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>, <corvairs at cybrus.net>
> >Message-ID: <000e01c58773$d21b7210$811b8d40 at mervxczf0ea8rk>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >Cleaned the motor hanging on a hoist and hitting it with an awesome
varsol
> >spray air rig that knocks the crap out of all the oily gunk real quick,
> >dropped the oil pan to have a look inside and fix the dents in it....
> >bolted the shields back on. Decided I have a 102hp.... and everything
looks
> >real good inside. Very happy!!!
> >Cleaned the tranny/diffy unit the same way, pilot bearing excellent,
> >throwout bearing excellent, bolted it back on to the motor, dropped the
> >oil, had a look see inside, changed the shifter seal, replaced the other
u
> >joint, very happy!!!
> >Started cleaning up the engine bay.... what a mess from the fenders over
> >the rear wheels being bowed out from the rear end accident which was not
> >fixed properly... now reasonably clean.
> >Greased one rear bearing with a needle and synthetic grease.... lots of
the
> >old gunk was forced out.... gonna do the the other one tomorrow. That's
24
> >hours.... see ya tomorrow!
> >Oh yeah... Charles Wrobel.... your springs are actually shorter than
> >mine... sorry it took so long.... shall I drop them off at your place or
> >will you be in Portland?
> >I guess I am gonna hafta shorten the front springs or put load helper
> >springs on the rear shocks to level the GB out.
> >toodles
> >Merv Krull
> >Salmon Arm, BC
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 8
> >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 05:57:31 EDT
> >From: N2VZD at aol.com
> >Subject: Re: [FC] Update on my brake problem
> >To: corvanatics at corvair.org
> >Message-ID: <db.2994d699.30063f8b at aol.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> >also grinding the shoes to fit the drums helps (arcing).
> >regards, tim colson
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 9
> >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:58:41 EDT
> >From: VairMech at aol.com
> >Subject: Re: [FC] the fan is seriously dented... day two on the GB
> >To: corvanatics at corvair.org
> >Message-ID: <ff.175bfd92.30064de1 at aol.com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 7/13/2005 2:27:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >krupross at sunwave.net writes:
> >
> >guess I  am gonna hafta shorten the front springs or put load helper
> >springs
> >on the  rear shocks to level the GB out.
> >
> >
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >     Or, you get my spring and shock kit that lowers the  front by almost
> >2"
> >and makes the front act like a Cadillac.
> >     Ken Hand
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 10
> >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:13:44 -0400
> >From: "Ben's Bus" <bensbus at paonline.com>
> >Subject: Re: [FC] Van Nationals
> >To: "The Corvanatics list" <corvanatics at corvair.org>
> >Message-ID: <001c01c587a4$638da260$9fa5dcd8 at stileshome>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >Where in PA was it this year? Had I know I might have tried to attend.
> >Seems
> >like it would be cool to be with a whole bunch of people who actually
> >appreciate vans. Not like most of the Corvair car people I pass, waving
my
> >arm off, being shunned as if they don't even know that Corvair vans
> >existed.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <EconoUSAParts at aol.com>
> >To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:01 AM
> >Subject: [FC] Van Nationals
> >
> >
> >    I attended the Van Nationals this past weekend in Pennsylvania. I
drove
> >my
> >72 Dodge van since the fuel pump on the Vair is out again,familiar story
so
> >I
> >ve read on the site. I just got one from Clark's though so hopefully it
> >will
> >fix it for good.
> >Anyhow,there were over 20 early Chev/GMC models,12 early Fords,and about
10
> >Dodge A100 vans in attendance. My question for the 2nd year in a row is,
> >where
> >the hell were all the Vairs? Im hoping for a different outcome next year
so
> >plan accordingly folks. Next years event is held in Harrisburg,Va.
> >
> >
> >                                                        Tim in Ky
> >Econo USA Parts
> >Your used 61-67 Econoline parts source
> >Constantly parting out E100 vans and trucks
> >A100 parts also available
> >
> >Ebay Falcon1966
> >_______________________________________________
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> >http://www.corvair.org/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 11
> >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:34:26 -0400
> >From: "Paul Steinberg" <noahsarkinc at earthlink.net>
> >Subject: Re: [FC] Van Nationals
> >To: "The Corvanatics list" <corvanatics at corvair.org>
> >Message-ID: <001101c587a7$3521e870$0e0ab118 at b2j7k01>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >When did Chevrolet Corvair makes vans??????? I always thought that they
> >were station wagons without windows...... ;-)
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Ben's Bus
> >   To: The Corvanatics list
> >   Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 8:13 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [FC] Van Nationals
> >
> >
> >   Where in PA was it this year? Had I know I might have tried to attend.
> >Seems
> >   like it would be cool to be with a whole bunch of people who actually
> >   appreciate vans. Not like most of the Corvair car people I pass,
waving
> >my
> >   arm off, being shunned as if they don't even know that Corvair vans
> >existed.
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: <EconoUSAParts at aol.com>
> >   To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>
> >   Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:01 AM
> >   Subject: [FC] Van Nationals
> >
> >
> >      I attended the Van Nationals this past weekend in Pennsylvania. I
> >drove
> >   my
> >   72 Dodge van since the fuel pump on the Vair is out again,familiar
story
> >so
> >   I
> >   ve read on the site. I just got one from Clark's though so hopefully
it
> >will
> >   fix it for good.
> >   Anyhow,there were over 20 early Chev/GMC models,12 early Fords,and
about
> >10
> >   Dodge A100 vans in attendance. My question for the 2nd year in a row
is,
> >   where
> >   the hell were all the Vairs? Im hoping for a different outcome next
year
> >so
> >   plan accordingly folks. Next years event is held in Harrisburg,Va.
> >
> >
> >                                                          Tim in Ky
> >   Econo USA Parts
> >   Your used 61-67 Econoline parts source
> >   Constantly parting out E100 vans and trucks
> >   A100 parts also available
> >
> >   Ebay Falcon1966
> >   _______________________________________________
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> >   http://www.corvair.org/
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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