[FC] Oil additive??

J R Read_HML hmlinc at sbcglobal.net
Mon Sep 29 00:59:21 EDT 2008


I don't (often) buy their gas, but I've had Mobil 1 oil in everything I own 
for 30+ years and have not been disappointed.  However, I'm aware of the 
(relatively) recent change you mentioned.  It is causing me to re-look at my 
choices.  Right now, I'm thinking the "diesel use" oil might be the way to 
go (for the Vairs) on the Mobil One.  Any comment?

Later, JR


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Hand" <vairmech at aol.com>
To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FC] Oil additive??


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> ???? Keep in mind that Mobil got the SAE standards changed to fit what 
> THEY wanted to do with synthetic oil. Mobil 1 is now 10% dino oil and they 
> still call it synthetic according to the rules.
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> ??? Sorry, not a big fan of anything Mobil oil.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Blackwell <bryan at skiblack.com>
> To: Ben and Lynn Stiles <lbstiles at verizon.net>
> Cc: corvanatics at corvair.org
> Sent: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 6:28 pm
> Subject: Re: [FC] Oil additive??
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> FWIW, here's what Mobil has to say on the subject:
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> http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/
> Synthetic_Oil_and_Tappets.aspx
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> BTW, their 15W-50 still has 1200 ppm of ZDDP, according to their spec
> sheet:
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> http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Files/
> Mobil_1_Product_Guide.pdf
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> I think they are correct that for an already broken in engine, 800
> ppm ZDDP is sufficient (if not, there would be *lots* of problems
> being reported).  For break-in, however, you probably want more like
> twice that.
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> --Bryan
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> On Sep 28, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Ben and Lynn Stiles wrote:
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>> FC friends-
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>> I got this from a classic car acquaintance. Does this have merit?
>> Should I
>> be worried about what I am running in my FCs? (Havoline 20W 50)
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>> Thanks for any insight. Could the end of enjoying our classic cars
>> really be
>> coming?
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>> Ben
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>>> The ZDDPLUS (Zinc/Phosphate) additive is now in stock.  The EPA is
>>> requiring oil manufacturers to eliminate this additive in lubricating
>>> oils as it shortens the life of a catalytic converter.  Oils with the
>>> API rating SM do not have adequate amounts of Zinc and Phosphorus
>>> needed
>>> to prevent the cams & tappets from failure in engines manufactured
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>>> to the 1990s.
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