[FC] oil
J R Read
hmlinc at sbcglobal.net
Fri Feb 11 23:41:56 EST 2011
Hi Rad,
I've used oil designated as for diesel engines for a couple of years. Over
the past summer I could no longer find my favorite at the local FLAPS. This
sent me on a search for an alternative and I found that Mobil 1 15W-50 has
1200PPM Phosphorus and 1300PPM zinc. The chart I'm quoting is now a year
old (maybe more) - so do your own research. Also, I began to wonder if oil
designed for diesel engines might have additives that were not good for
gasoline engines. I don't know, but that thought was another reason for me
to no longer use the diesel engine rated oil.
The original question had to do with engine break-in. In that case, you
should be looking for an oil with a designation NOT past the letter L or
using a ZDDP additive during the break-in period. You probably do NOT want
to be using synthetic oil for the first 2 to 3,000ish miles.
If you can find "old stock" Rotella (L? J? - I forget the designation at the
moment) that works OK too for flat tappet engines. The newer (last year,
maybe two - designation M - I think) does NOT!
Later, JR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rad Davis" <rad_davis at sent.com>
To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [FC] oil
> If you want the cool running of the 10w40 with plenty of ZDDP, you can
> always use a diesel oil - 15w40 works just fine and has the same hot
> viscosity.
>
> On 2/11/2011 9:07 PM, BBRT wrote:
>> Ron,
>>
>> I believe you should add it soonest. Especially if you didn't use a
>> break-in
>> oil formulated with Zinc additives. Additional ZDDP won't hurt and it may
>> help the initial wear-in. Most folks believe the new oils without ZDDP
>> contribute to increased wear on camshafts and lifters.
>>
>> Chuck S
>> BBRT
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "RON BLOOM"<bloomaz at msn.com>
>> To:<corvanatics at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:49 PM
>> Subject: [FC] oil
>>
>>
>>> Good evening
>>> I have a question..i just overhauled my 110 in my 62 Greenbrier.. After
>>> speaking With ken Hand I have changed oil using now 10-40 what a
>>> difference in oil temp.. I found out 20-50 tends to hold heat and the
>>> temp
>>> climbs.. I also found out useing a stright weight oil like 30 weight
>>> that
>>> it thins out and oil pressure drops.. So Ken , A big THANK YOU!!!!
>>> Anyway
>>> to my question . When I was in Palm Springs GWFBT I won a qt of Rislone
>>> eng oil Supplement with Zinc Treatment, is this something that can help
>>> my
>>> eng or is this something I should sell at my next yard sale?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for the input
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> Tucson Az
>>> 62 Greenbrier 110 slushy
>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Re: Tire Safety *rant* (Joel McGregor)
>>>> 2. Re: Corvair Alignment (was: Tire question) (Joel McGregor)
>>>> 3. Re: Tire Safety *rant* (Ron)
>>>> 4. Shippers (Mike Clark)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:11:07 -0600
>>>> From: Joel McGregor<joelsplace at earthling.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [FC] Tire Safety *rant*
>>>> To: "corvanatics at corvair.org"<corvanatics at corvair.org>
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <D522952017BFA547BC2D93BEBA6A3BE345546EEFC2 at W2K8SBS.joelsplace.local>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> I always figured the safest thing to do is don't hit anything by
>>>> learning
>>>> how to drive and driving something that goes where you point it or
>>>> modify
>>>> what you have until it will. That's one of my favorite things about
>>>> Corvairs - they tend to go where you point them or at least the EMs do.
>>>> LMs aren't as good at that. All this front wheel drive spin about
>>>> working better in ice and snow is just a lot of advertizing garbage.
>>>> The
>>>> only place I've noticed that a front wheel drive car works better is
>>>> from
>>>> a dead stop in ice. Once I'm moving give me a rear wheel drive car any
>>>> day. I have a FWD car I drive most of the time because it gets 30mpg
>>>> but
>>>> I drive a Corvair or my '82 Malibu (with sway bars adjusted for some
>>>> oversteer) when the roads are slippery. I made the mistake of driving
>>>> my
>>>> FWD with new tires the other day in the ice and was concerned about
>>>> getting home in one piece. The Malibu came out the next day with bald
>>>> tires and did much better. You can always steer a RWD
>>> ca
>>>> r with the rear wheels but FWD stuff tends to not steer at all. I've
>>>> never driven any of my FCs in ice but I'm sure they are better than any
>>>> FWD car. AWD is another story but I don't have any of those.
>>>> Joel McGregor
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:20:59 -0600
>>>> From: Joel McGregor<joelsplace at earthling.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [FC] Corvair Alignment (was: Tire question)
>>>> To: "corvanatics at corvair.org"<corvanatics at corvair.org>
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <D522952017BFA547BC2D93BEBA6A3BE345546EEFC3 at W2K8SBS.joelsplace.local>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> Alignment is one of the easier things to do yourself and one thing that
>>>> shops tend to really do a poor job with because they can get away with
>>>> it
>>>> or they don't know or care enough to do a good job. I used to do
>>>> alignments at a shop and they didn't appreciate the amount of time I
>>>> took
>>>> to do it right. "It's close enough".
>>>> Take the time to make a few tools and it's pretty easy. All you can
>>>> set
>>>> on a stock FC rear is the toe-in without changing spring or doing
>>>> something custom. I have an old chalk board aluminum tray with two
>>>> pointers bolted to it for checking toe-in. The front is a little more
>>>> difficult. You can check camber with a level on the wheel and caster
>>>> with a level and a block that centers between the ball joints. The
>>>> computer alignment machines are just quicker not better. When I went
>>>> to
>>>> the Hunter alignment school I checked my '63 on one machine, drove it
>>>> off
>>>> and back on and got a different set of readings. I then checked it on
>>>> a
>>>> different machine and got a third set of readings. Manual tools will
>>>> get
>>>> you the same reading every time.
>>>> Joel McGregor
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:51:21 -0800
>>>> From: "Ron"<ronh at owt.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [FC] Tire Safety *rant*
>>>> To: "Joel McGregor"<joelsplace at earthling.net>,
>>>> <corvanatics at corvair.org>
>>>> Message-ID:<1542AB4B54704F0AB031C15A00D024BF at YOUR76500D519C>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>> My Rampside is terrible on ice, the worst car I have, The Toyota Solara
>>>> is
>>>> the best.
>>>> RonH (Washington state)
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Joel McGregor"<joelsplace at earthling.net>
>>>> To:<corvanatics at corvair.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:11 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [FC] Tire Safety *rant*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I always figured the safest thing to do is don't hit anything by
>>>>> learning
>>>>> how to drive and driving something that goes where you point it or
>>>>> modify
>>>>> what you have until it will. That's one of my favorite things about
>>>>> Corvairs - they tend to go where you point them or at least the EMs
>>>>> do.
>>>>> LMs aren't as good at that. All this front wheel drive spin about
>>>>> working
>>>>> better in ice and snow is just a lot of advertizing garbage. The only
>>>>> place I've noticed that a front wheel drive car works better is from a
>>>>> dead
>>>>> stop in ice. Once I'm moving give me a rear wheel drive car any day.
>>>>> I
>>>>> have a FWD car I drive most of the time because it gets 30mpg but I
>>>>> drive a
>>>>> Corvair or my '82 Malibu (with sway bars adjusted for some oversteer)
>>>>> when
>>>>> the roads are slippery. I made the mistake of driving my FWD with new
>>>>> tires the other day in the ice and was concerned about getting home in
>>>>> one
>>>>> piece. The Malibu came out the next day with bald tires and did much
>>>>> better. You can always steer a RWD ca
>>>>> r with the rear wheels but FWD stuff tends to not steer at all. I've
>>>>> never driven any of my FCs in ice but I'm sure they are better than
>>>>> any
>>>>> FWD car. AWD is another story but I don't have any of those.
>>>>> Joel McGregor
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:17:38 -0500
>>>> From: "Mike Clark"<mclark67 at charter.net>
>>>> Subject: [FC] Shippers
>>>> To: "[FC] group"<corvanatics at corvair.org>
>>>> Message-ID:<916B62D8FF1F480E8B09D32773B3CC95 at MikePC>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> Good evening, group. Wondered if anyone had a good name for dependable
>>>> [and cheep] outfit to move a vehicle from San Diego to Atlanta. A
>>>> quick
>>>> search of google gives me about a billion entries, none of them
>>>> particularly helpful. Thanks much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike Clark
>>>> Stockbridge, Georgia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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