[FC] oil

Fri Feb 11 22:02:23 EST 2011

 There is a lot to know about oils and most of it has already been posted for all to read. The short of it all is, I am pretty sure all, 10W-40 and heavier oils have enough zinc in them to do an adequate job for our engines. I am pretty sure all, 10W-30 and lighter oils will be labeled as "energy conserving". If so then they will not have enough zinc to protect our engines.

If anyone cares I will continue with a full on tech article on oils.

Ken Hand
248-613-8586
www.corvairmechanic.com

-----Original Message-----
From: BBRT <chsadek at comcast.net>
To: corvanatics at corvair.org
Sent: Fri, Feb 11, 2011 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: [FC] oil

Ron,

I believe you should add it soonest. Especially if you didn't use a break-in 

oil formulated with Zinc additives. Additional ZDDP won't hurt and it may 

help the initial wear-in.  Most folks believe the new oils without ZDDP 

contribute to increased wear on camshafts and lifters.

Chuck S

BBRT

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "RON BLOOM" <bloomaz at msn.com>

To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>

Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:49 PM

Subject: [FC] oil

>

> Good evening

> I have a question..i just overhauled my 110 in my 62 Greenbrier.. After 

> speaking With ken Hand I have changed oil using now 10-40 what a 

> difference in oil temp.. I found out 20-50 tends to hold heat and the temp 

> climbs.. I also found out useing a stright weight oil like 30 weight that 

> it thins out and oil pressure drops.. So Ken , A big THANK YOU!!!! Anyway 

> to my question . When I was in Palm Springs GWFBT I  won a qt of Rislone 

> eng oil Supplement with Zinc Treatment, is this something that can help my 

> eng or is this something I should sell at my next yard sale?

>

> Thanks in advance for the input

>

> Ron

> Tucson Az

> 62 Greenbrier 110 slushy

>>

>> Today's Topics:

>>

>>    1. Re: Tire Safety *rant* (Joel McGregor)

>>    2. Re: Corvair Alignment (was:  Tire question) (Joel McGregor)

>>    3. Re: Tire Safety *rant* (Ron)

>>    4. Shippers (Mike Clark)

>>

>>

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>> Message: 1

>> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:11:07 -0600

>> From: Joel McGregor <joelsplace at earthling.net>

>> Subject: Re: [FC] Tire Safety *rant*

>> To: "corvanatics at corvair.org" <corvanatics at corvair.org>

>> Message-ID:

>> <D522952017BFA547BC2D93BEBA6A3BE345546EEFC2 at W2K8SBS.joelsplace.local>

>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

>>

>> I always figured the safest thing to do is don't hit anything by learning 

>> how to drive and driving something that goes where you point it or modify 

>> what you have until it will.  That's one of my favorite things about 

>> Corvairs - they tend to go where you point them or at least the EMs do. 

>> LMs aren't as good at that.  All this front wheel drive spin about 

>> working better in ice and snow is just a lot of advertizing garbage.  The 

>> only place I've noticed that a front wheel drive car works better is from 

>> a dead stop in ice.  Once I'm moving give me a rear wheel drive car any 

>> day.  I have a FWD car I drive most of the time because it gets 30mpg but 

>> I drive a Corvair or my '82 Malibu (with sway bars adjusted for some 

>> oversteer) when the roads are slippery.  I made the mistake of driving my 

>> FWD with new tires the other day in the ice and was concerned about 

>> getting home in one piece.  The Malibu came out the next day with bald 

>> tires and did much better.  You can always steer a RWD

> ca

>>  r with the rear wheels but FWD stuff tends to not steer at all.  I've 

>> never driven any of my FCs in ice but I'm sure they are better than any 

>> FWD car.  AWD is another story but I don't have any of those.

>> Joel McGregor

>>

>> ------------------------------

>>

>> Message: 2

>> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:20:59 -0600

>> From: Joel McGregor <joelsplace at earthling.net>

>> Subject: Re: [FC] Corvair Alignment (was:  Tire question)

>> To: "corvanatics at corvair.org" <corvanatics at corvair.org>

>> Message-ID:

>> <D522952017BFA547BC2D93BEBA6A3BE345546EEFC3 at W2K8SBS.joelsplace.local>

>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

>>

>> Alignment is one of the easier things to do yourself and one thing that 

>> shops tend to really do a poor job with because they can get away with it 

>> or they don't know or care enough to do a good job.  I used to do 

>> alignments at a shop and they didn't appreciate the amount of time I took 

>> to do it right.  "It's close enough".

>> Take the time to make a few tools and it's pretty easy.  All you can set 

>> on a stock FC rear is the toe-in without changing spring or doing 

>> something custom.  I have an old chalk board aluminum tray with two 

>> pointers bolted to it for checking toe-in.  The front is a little more 

>> difficult.  You can check camber with a level on the wheel and caster 

>> with a level and a block that centers between the ball joints.  The 

>> computer alignment machines are just quicker not better.  When I went to 

>> the Hunter alignment school I checked my '63 on one machine, drove it off 

>> and back on and got a different set of readings.  I then checked it on a 

>> different machine and got a third set of readings.  Manual tools will get 

>> you the same reading every time.

>> Joel McGregor

>>

>> ------------------------------

>>

>> Message: 3

>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 11:51:21 -0800

>> From: "Ron" <ronh at owt.com>

>> Subject: Re: [FC] Tire Safety *rant*

>> To: "Joel McGregor" <joelsplace at earthling.net>,

>> <corvanatics at corvair.org>

>> Message-ID: <1542AB4B54704F0AB031C15A00D024BF at YOUR76500D519C>

>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";

>> reply-type=original

>>

>> My Rampside is terrible on ice, the worst car I have, The Toyota Solara 

>> is

>> the best.

>> RonH (Washington state)

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----- 

>> From: "Joel McGregor" <joelsplace at earthling.net>

>> To: <corvanatics at corvair.org>

>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:11 AM

>> Subject: Re: [FC] Tire Safety *rant*

>>

>>

>> >I always figured the safest thing to do is don't hit anything by 

>> >learning

>> >how to drive and driving something that goes where you point it or 

>> >modify

>> >what you have until it will.  That's one of my favorite things about

>> >Corvairs - they tend to go where you point them or at least the EMs do.

>> >LMs aren't as good at that.  All this front wheel drive spin about 

>> >working

>> >better in ice and snow is just a lot of advertizing garbage.  The only

>> >place I've noticed that a front wheel drive car works better is from a 

>> >dead

>> >stop in ice.  Once I'm moving give me a rear wheel drive car any day.  I

>> >have a FWD car I drive most of the time because it gets 30mpg but I 

>> >drive a

>> >Corvair or my '82 Malibu (with sway bars adjusted for some oversteer) 

>> >when

>> >the roads are slippery.  I made the mistake of driving my FWD with new

>> >tires the other day in the ice and was concerned about getting home in 

>> >one

>> >piece.  The Malibu came out the next day with bald tires and did much

>> >better.  You can always steer a RWD ca

>> > r with the rear wheels but FWD stuff tends to not steer at all.  I've

>> > never driven any of my FCs in ice but I'm sure they are better than any

>> > FWD car.  AWD is another story but I don't have any of those.

>> > Joel McGregor

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>>

>> Message: 4

>> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 22:17:38 -0500

>> From: "Mike Clark" <mclark67 at charter.net>

>> Subject: [FC] Shippers

>> To: "[FC] group" <corvanatics at corvair.org>

>> Message-ID: <916B62D8FF1F480E8B09D32773B3CC95 at MikePC>

>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>>

>> Good evening, group.  Wondered if anyone had a good name for dependable 

>> [and cheep] outfit to move a vehicle from San Diego to Atlanta.  A quick 

>> search of google gives me about a billion entries, none of them 

>> particularly helpful.  Thanks much.

>>

>>

>> Mike Clark

>> Stockbridge, Georgia

>>

>>

>>

>>

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