[SCG] Re: Application to form new Special Interest Group Chapter: StockCorvair Group

[Bill Chellis]

Good evening all:

Given the recent e-mails from Dave Ellis on setting up the Stock Corvair
event for the Buffalo Convention and the discussions that took place in
Portland
last summer, these messages came as a startling surprise.

It would be a shame if this schedule problem can not be resolved by CORSA
because
several Corvair enthusiasts have been actively working to successfully
launch the first
Stock Corvair event at next years convention.

Bill Chellis


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hubbell" <whubbell at cox.net>
To: <sarahvair at juno.com>
Cc: "CORSA/CPF BoD" <corsabod at corvair.org>; "Mark Corbin"
<airvair at richnet.net>; "Rich Thompson" <richard.w.thompson at usa.dupont.com>;
"Stan East" <sgeast at interlog.com>; "Sam & Marissa Andolino"
<mandolin at rochester.rr.com>; "Kent Sullivan" <kentsu at corvairkid.com>;
"DaveEllis" <dellis1 at rochester.rr.com>; "Bill Chellis" <chelvis at camano.net>;
"Dave Newell" <chevrobilia at juno.com>; <scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 7:42 PM
Subject: Fw: Application to form new Special Interest Group Chapter:
StockCorvair Group


>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: sarahvair at juno.com
>   To: whubbell at umich.edu
>   Cc: sgeast at interlog.com
>   Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 6:55 PM
>   Subject: Annual Stock Corvair Event
>
>
>   Bill,
>
>   We met recently in Buffalo to go over the schedule for the convention.
> During this time it was brought up that you had posted a "special" display
> for the SCG.  Harry, Larry and myself were unaware that you intended to do
> this and felt that our schedule is much to tight as it is.
>
>   Stan then said that according to your by-laws it states you will have
this
> event annually.  I advised Stan that I never saw the bylaws for SCG.  I
> thought a little bit about it and said you know, I think maybe he did send
> it, but I didn't really have any need to read them.  Yes, when SCG became
a
> chapter, Charlie West had the documents and forwarded them onto Harry.
> Charlie made his recommendation to the Board, but we don't need to read
the
> by-laws.
>
>   In my personal opinion, if a chapter or special interest group has a
> policy, that does not mean
>   that CORSA is bound to abide by those policies. CORSA must adhere to its
> own policies.  At the very least if you intended this to be a part of the
> convention, you should have run this by Larry Claypool since he is the
> Convention Chairman.  As you know, there are P & P's for conventions and
if
> your group wanted a designated display area, then you would need to
address
> the convention P & P as well.
>
>   That being said, we have decided there is no room on the convention
> schedule for a second display area.  You do have a couple of choices.  We
do
> have an open class in the Car Display.  If you'd like to have the cars
> displayed there, then they will be voted on and awarded awards
accordingly.
> However, the cars will not be able to enter Concours if this is the case.
> The other choice is to make it part of you SCG group meeting.  Meet inside
> and then adjourn to the parking lot, etc.  If you run out of time you
could
> decide at a later time where and when to all meet, however, the only time
we
> will list in the schedule is the time pre-set for the SCG.
>
>   Sarah
>
>
>
> The Annual Stock Corvair event has always been stated as part of the plan.
> It was carefully crafted and spelled out in all of the documents that were
> sent to all of the Board members, to Harry, Charlie, and to involved
members
> of the club (see copy of header, below).  The event was added to the
Buffalo
> convention by Stan East and other members of the board of the host clubs,
> and arrangements for time and place were also might want to made by them.
> Also, I did specifically discuss the ASCE with Harry at the Portland
> Convention and he asked me to work out the details with the host clubs -
he
> did not seem concerned with the details.  Further, the ASCE was included
as
> a specific event on the plan the Board was given for the Buffalo
convention
> at the Portland Board meeting - if you still have it, you might want to
take
> a look at it.
>
> I am afraid that we cannot hold the ASCE on the same day as the Concours
and
> Car Display, as we specifically designed the ASCE to be held on another
day
> so as not to compete with them and to make it possible for any car wishing
> to attend both to be able to do so.  This is also spelled out in detail in
> the supporting document which were sent to all board members.  We also
made
> a point of setting it up so as not to overlap existing events.
>
> The ASCE was further mentioned in my "Directors Turn at the Wheel column
> which was published in the August Communiqué - which I also ran by the
Board
> and by Mike and Harry.
>
> Thus, I find it a little hard to believe that you are only just now
finding
> out about this.  I also do not understand the problem, as this was all
being
> worked out by members of the SCG and the hosting clubs.  It has always
been
> the plan that the ASCE would be an event run by the SCG itself, not by
> CORSA, but to be held at the CORSA convention.
>
> If you are telling me now that the ASCE is not gong to be held as we have
> planned, I think you have some explaining to do to a lot of people.  The
> CORSA Board of Directors, given ample information and proper notification,
> fully supported the formation of the SCG and the ASCE.  Several members of
> the CORSA BoD are also members of the SCG - Tony, Rich, Tim, myself, and
> Kent Sullivan, former Board member.  Larry Claypool is a member of the SCG
> and has been copied on all correspondence.  Many other prominent members
of
> CORSA are also SCG members, and are expecting this event.  Dave Ellis,
Stan
> East, Marissa Andolino and many others are on the SCG committee which is
> coordinating this event and have been working diligently to pull it off.
>
> I am copying this to all the members of the SCG, including SCG officers
and
> SCG Research team, and to the CORSA Board.
>
>
> Bill Hubbell
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Hubbell" <whubbell at cox.net>
> To: "CORSA/CPF BoD" <corsabod at corvair.org>; "Harry Jensen"
> <hljensen at comcast.net>; "Charlie West" <kandcwest at earthlink.net>
> Cc: "Doug C Barneck" <Doug.Barneck at tigta.treas.gov>; "Bill Chellis"
> <chelvis at camano.net>; "Bill Hubbell" <whubbell at umich.edu>; "Dave Newell"
> <chevrobilia at juno.com>; "Ed Bittman" <MarPack57 at aol.com>; "Henry
Kaczmarek"
> <kaczmarek at charter.net>; "J R Read_HML" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>; "Jeff
> Schramm" <jeff.schramm at gmail.com>; "Kent Sullivan"
<kentsu at corvairkid.com>;
> "Mark Corbin" <airvair at richnet.net>; "Mike Stillwell"
<yenko117 at yahoo.com>;
> "Rich Thompson" <richard.w.thompson at usa.dupont.com>; "Robert Landers"
> <CorsaRob at charter.net>; "Stan East" <sgeast at interlog.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:57 PM
> Subject: Application to form new Special Interest Group Chapter: Stock
> Corvair Group
> (Attachments: SCG Policy on Stock Assessment Manuals.Doc; SCG Policy for
> Annual Stock Corvair Event.doc; SCG Newsletter policy.doc; Chapter
> Application.doc; Bylaws of Stock Corvair Group.doc; Taking Stock.doc)
>
> Charlie, Harry, and CORSA BOD members:
>
> Enclosed please find electronic version of CORSA application to form a new
> CORSA Special Interest Group chapter named "Stock Corvair Group".  All
> supporting documents are also attached.  Per Chapter Plan Guidelines, we
> would like the BOD to consider this application and give approval in a
> timely fashion.
>
> Please direct any questions to me.
>
> Bill Hubbell
> President-elect, Stock Corvair Group
>
>