Fw: [SCG] Re: 64 vair

Tue Oct 25 16:06:25 EDT 2005

Bill,
It's easy to get confused using the Ditzler and other paint supplier
charts. Their application data is secondhand and can't always be relied
on.

Let's start with the basics, even though I think you've figured some of
this out:

The letter codes indicate the color of the painted metal in the interior,
which often includes gloss, semi-gloss and gloss finishes,  sometimes in
more than one shade, depending on the year. Most of the time the dash is
a darker shade than the door paint, and you'll also see the contrast in
two-tone steering wheels. 

So the "F", for example, refers to ALL the component shades of Fawn
interior paint that are used with RPO 758 Fawn Trim (upholstery) in
Spyders & Monzas, RPO 757 in 700s and RPO 764 in 500s for 1964.

There is only one "F". 

Code Q was definitely used on Corvairs: the door metal and trim (door
panels & seat upholstery) were Ivory, and the dash, steering wheel, kick
panels, and carpet were red. Q is correctly referred to by Chevy as
"White/Red" because it is made up of Ivory and red paint! The trim code
was RPO 727.

Because Q/727 was so unique, it was only available with 5 exterior
colors: Black, White, both reds and (this one I'd love to see!) Satin
Silver!

So, it's all very simple:

A = Aqua
B = Blue
C = Saddle
D = Red
E = Black
F = Fawn
Q = White/Red

Have you done any research on the two different 64 body plate designs? It
looks to me like the second design 64 body plate came in at the end of
October. I have a 10E plate coded "OE" with no "64" in the Style...looks
like a goof in the transition. All my plates 11B and later are the new
style, with the interior paint code letter below the word "PAINT" rather
than as a "-X" suffix after the exterior paint code.

Hope this helps,

Dave

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:20:13 -0400 "Bill Hubbell" <whubbell at cox.net>
writes:
OK, if I put all the letter codes in the Ditzler paint chart, it looks
like this:  Is it correct?
The Ditzler chart says Ivory is not used on Corvair, so is code Q really
for ivory?
The only car I know of with code Q is Smitty's "Grape" which has White
painted interior with dark red dash.  Could the Ditzler chart be wrong
about Ivory?  

Are you saying that F is the code for Light Fawn as well as for Medium
Fawn?  How would they tell which one to use?

Bill

These charts taken from Ditzler Paint Chart – 1964 Chevrolet

Chevrolet Interior Colors – All Models
Gloss Colors

USED ON:Windshield, Upper and Side Garish Moldings, Windshield Header
Molding and Frame, Door Window Inner Frames, Door Inner Panel,  (Belt
Area) Rear Quarter Window Garnish Moldings – front and upper.  Rear
Quarter Inner Panel.  (Belt Area) Back Window Garnish Molding.  Tailgate
Window opening, Upper and Side Garnish Molding.  Radio Auxiliary Speaker
Grille Assembly.  Rear Seat Back Radio Speaker Support.  Folding Top Dust
Boot Retainer.  Folding Top Parts.  Seat Parts.  Spare Tire Well Parts.

COLOR NAMEDL DITZLER
CODE
Q**Ivory8259
E Black9248
B Medium Blue Poly.12531
A Medium Aqua Poly.12533
C Medium Saddle Poly.22162
F Medium Fawn Poly.22454
 Light Fawn22459
 ***Silver Poly.32176
 ***Medium Olive Poly.43294
D Medium Red71276

USED ON: 
Rear Trunk Compartment 
DX-1676

Chevrolet Interior Colors – All Models
Flat Colors

USED ON:Instrument Panel and Steering Column Parts, Windshield, Lower
Garnish Molding, Radio Speaker Grill

COLOR NAMEDIA DITZLER
CODE
 **Black9317
  Dark Aqua Poly.12753
  Dark Blue Poly.12754
  Dark Saddle22306
  Medium Fawn22455
 **Dark Green Poly.43295
  Dark Red71360

  ** Not used on Corvair
*** Not used on 5000 Series, Corvair or Chevy II

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From: chevrobilia at juno.com 
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Subject: Re: [SCG] Re: 64 vair

Bill,
Thanks! Here are the other letter codes:
D = Red, all models

C = Saddle

F is for all Fawn in all models

Dave

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:32:06 -0400 "Bill Hubbell" <whubbell at cox.net>
writes:
Here is a Word file I made once which contains the paint codes for 1964
interiors.  I took the information off the paint chip chart I mentioned
below.  It does not reference the single letter codes used on the body
plates, but we are generally able to translate those codes.  For
instance, we know that:

A=medium Aqua Poly. (12533)
B=Medium Blue Poly (12531)
E=Black (9248)
F=Fawn (but I'm not sure which one)
Q=Ivory (8259)

I am still looking for the rest of the letter codes

I have also attached my database (Excel file) of Corvair VINs, body Tags,
and options.  I am always looking to add to this file.  Of course, it
would be better to put it in a true database file, but that has to wait
until we get the SCG database up and running.

Bill
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