[SCG] Keep those 1964 Body Tags coming!
Bill Hubbell
whubbell at cox.net
Mon Aug 21 00:18:46 EDT 2006
Dave, perhaps you did not receive or read the e-mail I sent on August 7th
(below) with a good photo of the Tag.
I never said you had to go to a web site to see it - I am just cataloging
the tags we have on a web page so we all have access to the same data. Is
there something wrong with that?
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Hubbell
To: Corsa ; Bill Hubbell ; kentsu at corvairkid.com ; chevrobilia at juno.com
Cc: whubbell at umich.edu
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: 64 vin code
OK, here is the detail shot of my 3C body tag (Mr.Poop)
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Corsa
To: Bill Hubbell ; kentsu at corvairkid.com ; chevrobilia at juno.com
Cc: whubbell at umich.edu
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: 64 vin code
Well Guys
It appears that Bill's "3C" plate is the third Style and extends its first
appearance to 3C. Although we can't be 100% sure until we get a better
picture of the bodytag.
Now we have to find a 10D plate to confirm the transition from style one
to style two. I'm curious to see if it is labeled 10D or 0D. Also we should
see if we can find any
11A dates which may be listed as just A.
Dave T.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Hubbell
To: kentsu at corvairkid.com ; chevrobilia at juno.com
Cc: corsa at comcast.net ; whubbell at umich.edu
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: 64 vin code
I OWN a 3C 1964 Sedan - Mr. Poop!
(http://community.webshots.com/album/346555056BqJxBx)
I do not have a close-up of his Body plate here, but I will visit the
car (it is in storage off site) as soon as possible and take a better photo
of it.
In the meantime, here is the best shot I have of the Body Plate -
download the photo and then zoom in - you should be able to get a rough idea
about the style of the plate.
http://image26.webshots.com/27/8/95/25/377389525HvHkTc_fs.jpg
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: chevrobilia at juno.com
To: kentsu at corvairkid.com
Cc: corsa at comcast.net ; whubbell at umich.edu
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: 64 vin code
Here you go. What I should have said, I guess, is that I have the
First Style 64 plate through and including 10C. I've had one of these a long
time and the other was in the new group you sent. The one we really need to
see is a 10D. And of course 3C.
VIN of the top plate is 133947, bottom one (new one) is unknown.
Dave
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 16:18:26 -0700 "Kent Sullivan"
<kentsu at corvairkid.com> writes:
Would be great to find a 10C and a 3C. Dave T. and Bill--maybe post
on VV to see if anyone can take a picture of same?
----- Original Message -----
From: <chevrobilia at juno.com>
To: <whubbell at umich.edu>
Cc: <scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com>; <kentsu at corvairkid.com>;
<corsa at comcast.net>; <Richard.W.Thompson at usa.dupont.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [SCG] Keep those 1964 Body Tags coming!
Bill,
Somehow we're not communicating. Dave Trull has been leading the 64 body
tag research with the type changes. We don't automatically look at your
website. I for one follow the research questions as they're posed in
emails. It seems that you've been reinventing the wheel on the body tag
type/changes that Dave started a long time ago.
Dave
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:35:14 -0400 "Bill Hubbell" <whubbell at cox.net>
writes:
> Hello? I already posted my 03C tag from the John Glen car a week or
> two
> ago, remember? It is on the website, and it most definitely is the
> third
> style (no "Magic Mirror")
>
> And the address for the SCG list is scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com
> Please post
> to this list when you want it to go to the entire group.
>
> Some of you are using scg-list-bounces at tiger.skiblack.com - please
> do NOT
> use that address as it simply bounces and sends me an error
> message.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <chevrobilia at juno.com>
> To: <kentsu at corvairkid.com>
> Cc: <Richard.W.Thompson at usa.dupont.com>; <whubbell at umich.edu>;
> <corsa at comcast.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCG] Keep those 1964 Body Tags coming!
>
>
> Hi,
> That's my impression, Kent. We know that the THIRD design 64 body
> plate
> (65 design without the "Magic Mirror") started with 3D for sure and
> possibly 3C. If anyone has a 3C it would confirm which style was
> used
> that week (3B is the second design 64 plate).
>
> After '63, GM stopped using Magic Mirror in their ad copy. Probably
> a
> marketing decision, but I hope Rich can find out a specific reason
> why
> the term was dropped.
>
> Somehow your email dropped the SCG on the cc list. I don't have the
> address in my address book yet or I'd add it.
>
> Dave
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:02:54 -0700 "Kent Sullivan"
> <kentsu at corvairkid.com> writes:
> > Indeed!
> >
> > I wonder if it's just another instance of the body tag format
> > changing, this
> > time to prepare for 1965. LMs don't have that language on the
> Fisher
> > tag...
> >
> > --Kent
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: scg-list-bounces at tiger.skiblack.com
> > [mailto:scg-list-bounces at tiger.skiblack.com] On Behalf Of Richard
> W
> > Thompson
> > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 6:59 AM
> > To: Bill Hubbell
> > Cc: Virtual Vairs; scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com;
> > scg-list-bounces at tiger.skiblack.com
> > Subject: Re: [SCG] Keep those 1964 Body Tags coming!
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > The July end date on the bodies was 7D from my understanding. I
> even
> > have
> > '65 casting coded cylinders on my car, but they are '64
> dimensions.
> > My 500
> > coupe is a July car right at the end of it, so I will try and get
> a
> > picture
> > to you soon.
> >
> > By the way, i found an interesting anomoly yesterday while
> working
> > on the
> > 500. The body tag usually states something like "This car is
> > finished with
> > Magic Mirror ....." It was a joint name/brand that DuPont and GM
> > came up
> > with to describe their new lacquer finish. My July built 500 does
> > NOT have
> > that anywhere on the tag. It is completely blank where that
> should
> > be.
> >
> > I am trying to check my sources here to determine if DuPont
> somehow
> > lost the
> > business for a while to another competitor (i.e. PPG, Sherwin
> > Williams) for
> > a while which caused the notation to dissappear on the tags.
> >
> > A really odd point, huh?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bill Hubbell"
> >
> > <whubbell at cox.net
> >
> > >
> > To
> > Sent by: "Virtual Vairs"
> >
> > scg-list-bounces@
> <virtualvairs at corvair.org>,
> >
> > tiger.skiblack.co
> <scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com>
> >
> > m
> > cc
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject
> > 08/19/2006 12:26 [SCG] Keep those 1964 Body
> > Tags
> > AM coming!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > Bill Hubbell
> >
> > <whubbell at umich.e
> >
> > du>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks again to all who are submitting photos of 1964 Body Tags.
> > The
> > website now has 35 different tags, including 2 Canadian Corvairs.
> I
> > now
> > have at least one tag from each month of production EXCEPT May
> and
> > July (05
> >
> > and 07), but I am missing many of the weeks.
> >
> > http://community.webshots.com/album/552937869fLgqrp
> >
> > Here is what I still need to get a complete set of weeks:
> >
> > Did production begin in August? We have an 08A, but were there
> any
> > 1964s
> > made in July of 1963?
> >
> > 08B
> > 08C
> > 08D
> > 08E
> >
> > 09B
> > 09E
> >
> > 10B
> > 10D (We are especially interested in this one!) 10E (May not exist
> -
> > we have
> > an 0E that we believe to represent 10E)
> >
> > 11B
> > 11E
> >
> > 12A (We have a strange one that looks like 121) 12D 12E (Dec 30,
> 31
> > - did
> > they work those days?)
> >
> > 01A
> > 01B
> > 01C
> > 01E
> >
> > 02A (Feb 1)
> > 02B
> > 02C
> > 02E (1964 was a Leap year)
> >
> > 04B
> > 04C
> > 04D
> > 04E
> >
> > 05A (May 1, 2)
> > 05B
> > 05C
> > 05D
> > 05E
> > 05F (Sunday, May 31)
> >
> > 06B
> > 06C
> > 06D
> > 06E
> >
> > 07A
> > 07B
> > 07C
> > 07D
> > 07E ?? (When did they end 1964 production?)
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> > Bill Hubbell
> > President, SCG
> >
> >
> >
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