[SCG] SCG evaluation

[airvair]

All,

Sorry for the confusion, but as I stated, it was just a thought. As far
as using the dreaded "J" word, Bill, you should know me well enough to
know that it was a Freudian slip. From the very beginning, I've been on
the side of "not judging, but EVALUATING" the cars. So to everyone, just
substitute "evaluating" in the places I used the wrong word. Write it
off as being too late at nite or too early in the morning, I forget
which.

As far as any "competition" aspect, I certainly didn't intend to even
imply that. The "scoring" would be only a way of putting a concrete
percentage number to an otherwise guestimated quantity - specifically,
the degree to which a car is stock and/or original. The purpose would be
for the owner's edification only, and certainly not a competition of any
sort.

Thus, any owner who had a car, like my infamous '69 Corsa for example,
could get a concrete figure on just how close to stock his car really
is. My car is constructed to be very close to stock, but complying with
the written "update-backdate" rule allowed in the Concours' Street Stock
class.

I personally desire to have a "proven" concrete figure on that car as to
just how close to stock is its construction. It would give me great
satisfaction if the percentage turned out to be very high. I'd know to
just what degree I succeeded in my intentions. I think that owners of
most any car with some degree of "stockness" (be it original or
restored) would like to have such figures.

But of course, as has been stated, just documenting originality is going
to be a huge enough task. Once that task is complete (if it ever is)
enough, maybe such percentage "scoring" could be conducted, for the sake
of owners' curiousity.

As I said, just a thought. Maybe a bit too off the wall at this point?

-Mark

Richard W Thompson wrote:
> 
> Just a general message and question to the group:
> 
> This in reference to Mark's e-mail below.
> 
> I agree with Mark 100% that the group should not bar any vehicle that an
> owner wants to put through the process of evaluation. It should be open to
> anyone wanting to do this for whatever reason.
> 
> If we are the "Stock Corvair Group", and the empahasis is on originality
> and correctness to stock vehicles as provided by Chevrolet/GM, this is just
> that, correct? We are not just considering the "correctness and
> originality" of the components, right? Example: if someone brought in a
> complete clone of some kind of a known model and option package for that
> year (say a '66 Corsa turbo), but the body tags, VIN, etc. tell the real
> story that is was a '66 500 with a 95 hp and Glide originally. Is the Stock
> Group's judgement to say because they got it right that it is verified as
> stock??. It is my interpretation that is not what is trying to be done
> here. If the part of the effort here is to match up the vehicles with what
> we know were the offerings each year by Chevrolet, either by model,
> options, dealer optrions, colors, etc. and what the factory would provide
> those cars by way of components to put that model/vehicle together, isn't
> that exactly it? And what is meant by "passing judgement on political
> correctness"?
> 
> Orginality vs. correctness: now there is a great question. Do we look at
> all stock pavement-up restorations, regardless of all the correct, as
> prescribed by assembly, date coded componenets, etc., as not original and
> score that car low? I am not sure about that.
> 
> Maybe I am misreading the commenets below, but I would like to hear back
> from some others on the list to find how they see it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rich
> 
> All,
> 
> A thought just crossed my mind, something I figured I'd share with the
> group before the thought passes.
> 
> In our evaluation "scoring" we should be judging only two quantities,
> stockness and originality (perfection and quality, of course, being left
> to concours). Our "scoring" should assign a percentage point to every
> item and aspect of the car, right down to the last fastener, and add up
> to a total in each of the two quantities of 100.00%. I realize that this
> idea may be too late to make a difference in how we conduct this year's
> scoring, but I offer this FWIW.
> 
> A car that is mostly original will score high in both quantities, but a
> pavement-up resto will score little if any on originality. Certainly
> things like instrument faces will often be used as delivered, rather
> than being refinished or restored. And we should not bar any car from an
> evaluation (even my infamous '69 Corsa.) Our purpose is solely to judge
> how close a car is to factory stock in its components and those parts'
> originality, and not to pass judgement on "political correctness."
> 
> Thus each car will receive two scores, one on originality and one on
> stockness. Of course, neither will entitle anyone to any "award" but
> rather only the personal satisfaction of coming as close to 100% as
> possible. THAT should be our message, and our purpose, in SCG
> evaluations.
> 
> -Mark Corbin