[SCG] "Bloomington Gold" for Corvairs?

dal daluckow at aol.com
Wed Jun 10 01:27:07 EDT 2009 

Hi Guys,

As the second year CORSA Concours Chairman, I would say not too many Corvair folks want to take the time, effort and expense to make and preserve a Corvair like the GM intended.  Up to this present time, in the national circuit Kent Sullivan's Canadian built 1966 turbo convertible is the premiere example in a late model, until the bias ply 700 X 13 tires are available from Coker.  Every nut, bolt, paint strip, date coded alternator diodes, glass logos and voltage regular are correct.  The next item I am working on is date coding the rear plastic window. I even had the postive spring ring battery cable  engraved with the correct Canadian code.  I know of one more Canadian "actual show car" that will be in the same category as Kent's done soon.  There is also a 1966 Corsa Pilot turbo convertible that I know of that is all original with 40,00 miles and never been tapered with.  Rich Thompson has a 1964 Turbo coupe.  The cars do exist and are shown.  We have the documentation to prove it.  That is what factory stock original and factory stock restored is all about in Corsa.

 Actually, I was frustrated the first time I showed my 1965 Corsa 180.  I learned a great deal from that experience and improved the score and car each national convention.    It was a challenge and fun which lead me to restoring Kent's Canadian car.  

I do agree with Paul that not any one person's word is all devine.  There are exceptions!  Working as a team is what it is all about. Asking questions and researching for answers.  Many good Corsa members are still trying to preserve the originality and authenticity. A few of us nut cases are still around.  Hope this commentary helps.... 

Duanne Luckow

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On 6/9/2009 at 7:22 PM Paul Steinberg wrote:

>Unfortunately, some in the CORSA orginization believe that they are G-d,
>and 
>as such, their word is all devine, and not to be challanged.  I don't 
>believe that any one person knows everything there is to know about the 
>Corvair automobile, however, the one person that does believe that he
>knows 
>all there is to know has chased away many a good member in the past as a 
>result.  This is one of the reasons that I left the fold many years ago. 
>I 
>love the car, and have a deep respect for CORSA, however, I just can't get 
>past seeing how one person can ruin so many other members fun.
>Paul in CT
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>> Despite our less than complete knowledge of just what is stock/original,
>I
>> still think that more of an effort should be made to acknowledge and 
>> reward
>> the  efforts of those who endeavor to preserve Corvairs in the condition
>> which God  and General Motors intended!
>>
>> ~Bill Stanley
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 6/9/2009 4:13:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> dellis1 at rochester.rr.com writes:
>>
>> AH  yess...there is the rub.....the Corvette folks
>> took on the task of  extremely thorough documentation
>> of "what's stock",  many decades  ago..and have that against
>> which to judge their autos....hard copy master  reference
>> documents that are extremely functional, both in text and
>> images, for each year are available to one and all...
>> CORSA chose to  ignore this effort...one would think it would
>> be an early on, bedrock  activity, for the national organization...
>> and just recently the   group of folks who saw the need, independently
>> started SCG started down  that path..however the effort has been less
>than
>> strongly supported by  CORSA or the general membership...in both
>> the pocketbooks and their  efforts...
>>
>> Until the hurclean task of completing that  documentation
>> occurs..and it is made available to the rank and  file...
>> one can just forget about cloning the Bloomington
>> Gold approach  in the Corvair world...
>>
>> Dave Ellis...a charter SCG  member....
>>
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>> Wrsssatty at aol.com
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>> Subject: [SCG] "Bloomington Gold" for  Corvairs?
>>
>> I was recently reading an article about the Bloomington Gold  Corvette 
>> show
>>
>> and how it recognizes Corvettes that have been  preserved or restored to
>> factory  authenticity and condition.   As the award procedure was
>> explained;
>> "It's  not really a  competition, it's a measure of how well you've
>> preserved
>> or
>> restored a  car to factory authenticity."  Corvettes that are deemed 95% 
>> or
>> more  stock get a gold certification.  90-94% originality earns silver 
>> and
>>
>> 85-89% earns bronze.
>>
>> I was wondering of something of this  nature has ever been considered for
>> Co
>> rvairs.  I know that  Corsa concours has a stock category but Corsa
>> concours, to me, has  always seemed to focus more upon the quality of the
>> work  done
>> on  a car rather than the authenticity ("originalness" or "stockness")
>of 
>> a
>>
>> car.
>>
>> ~Bill Stanley
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