[SCG] Making stock class, was: [Corsabod] Factory Stock Corvair Entries and StockPreservation Award history in CORSA Concours 1997-2009

[dal]

Agree with Kent's comment.  If there is a will, there is a way.  Brings creativiity into the scene.  Duanne

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On 9/5/2009 at 5:27 PM Kent Sullivan wrote:

>This is somewhat similar to what I was suggesting. The main issue (not
>considering other scheduling issues) is that only some stock problems will
>be able to be solved at the convention. Simple things, where a part could
>be
>purchased from a swap vendor, would be fine, but a fair amount of the time
>there isn't going to be a part at the convention to fix the problem.
>
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>To: Kent Sullivan; dal; corsabod at corvair.org; scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com
>Subject: Making stock class, was: [SCG] [Corsabod] Factory Stock Corvair
>Entries and StockPreservation Award history in CORSA Concours 1997-2009
>
>I think that having the concours the first convention activity out of the
>gate contributes to this problem. There is a rush to get cars classified,
>so that the concours can happen on-schedule. Unfortunately, with the
>current format, this is unavoidable.
>
>Perhaps what we need is to make the convention's "first" day activity a
>"how to get your car into Stock class" day. It would be part seminar, part
>tech session, and part pre-classification session. The emphasis would be
>not on finalizing classification, but rather, on throroughly going over
>each car in an effort to find AND CORRECT any item(s) that would keep it
>out of Stock class. It would also be an opportunity, after all efforts were
>spent on bringing each car up to par, to "pre-qualify" each car, so that
>those cars could skip the "formal" classification process. Just this
>feature alone may encourage participation. Plus it may also serve as the
>SCG Event day, for those who's cars aren't even going to be in the actual
>concours. (The SCG meeting would be held later in the week and during the
>day, so as to pick up any late-arrivals).
>
>Any thoughts anyone?
>
>-Mark
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Kent Sullivan <kentsu at corvairkid.com>
>
>> Subject: Re: [SCG] [Corsabod] Factory Stock Corvair Entries and
>StockPreservation Award history in CORSA Concours 1997-2009
>>
>> What would be interesting to discuss is some way of helping people who
>want
>> to try for factory stock BEFORE classification occurs, or some way they
>> could go back through classification AFTER getting help from the SCG
>folks.
>> In both cases, doing this would make sense only if the things they need
>to
>> change could be changed while at the convention. Sometimes this is
>possible,
>> in the case of Bill Hubbell rounding up some correct bolts. Sometimes
>it's
>> not, because the part is very obscure and the reproduction doesn't look
>the
>> same.
>>
>> Of the two choices, I would like to suggest the latter, since that means
>the
>> main SCG event could continue to be at the same time as classification,
>> which seems to work pretty well, and holding the SCG event before
>> classification poses scheduling problems since classification is pretty
>much
>> the first event of the convention. Since classification these days is
>really
>> about whether you get into Factory Stock or not, I would think we could
>> modify the concours rules to allow people to try twice at a given
>> convention--it should not be that much work given the low number of cars
>> trying.
>>
>> I think small changes like this to the concours rules could really help
>> people who are interested in Factory Stock (Original or Restored) feel
>more
>> positive about their chances of getting in, and these changes reflect the
>> ideas behind the SCG, which are to learn from each other and encourage
>each
>> other as a community, rather than foster an exam-like situation that is
>> tense and stressful. There are too many cars that are very close to
>making
>> it into the Factory Stock classes but the owner has given up.
>>
>> If we wanted to go slightly further, we could make official some sort of
>> policy where people who were very close to Factory Stock could get a
>limited
>> number of exceptions and those exceptions would be documented, with the
>idea
>> being that the next time the car was shown, those things had to be
>> corrected. Meaning, the exceptions would be for that concours only, not
>> future events.
>>
>> --Kent
>>