[SCG] Problem or Solution?

Jack Pinard corvairjack at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 16 19:37:30 EDT 2009


Mark -
Thanks again for your service and ideas.
I do not disagree with your comments.
The situation is that questions have arisen about expanding entries.
Many opinions were expressed.
I do not have opinion about rules.
I want participation to expand.
So to quell the flames and have an orderly process I requested that the topic be included on board agenda.
Any director at any time may introduce a topic for discussion. This is board duty.
The president may include an agenda item for discussion.
But the president does not have the right to prevent a topic from being introduced.
The board should refer the topic to a committee for study and request a recommendation.
The committee is then responsible for a fair and careful examination and a recommendation to the board.
The board then acts on the recommendations.
I did not suggest anything different than your comments.

But let us remember that the board has much broader responsibilities than any chair, including concours. This is not a beauty pageant (pun), it is not about personalities or turf wars.

The board can encourage all committees and chairs to be creative in seeking new ways to expand and enhance participation in CORSA events.

I assert that concours participants could be developing ideas to promote the "Showing" of Corvairs, just as Competition committee could be seeking new ways for "Competing" with Corvairs.

Why should CORSA be satisfied with the status quo?  
Why are there no sanctioned events outside annual convention?
Who decided that members should be allowed to compete only once a year?

Isn't it worth time time to look for ways to reverse the downward slide in membership? 
Don't you think it is possible to create excitement with our base and reduce cancellations?
Can't experienced members make suggestions that will make a difference?

Why are hearing all this: 
NO, YOU CANT, IT HAS BEEN TRIED, NO ONE IS INTERESTED.

Lets work together with positive attitudes, exciting programs, innovative events!

I am 77, I am not willing to give up. 
I believe that CORSA can grow and I am committed to working for that goal.

The status quo got CORSA into this mess and it won't get us out.

I like this axiom: "You are either part of the problem or part of the solution".

I think CORSA can count on you for the latter.

Regards,
Jack







 
 Jack Pinard   
CORSA Western Division Director

116 E Garden Green, Port Hueneme CA 93041-1926 
Cell 805 340-6533





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Subject: Re: [SCG] [Corsabod] Factory Stock Corvair Entries and StockPreservationAward history in CORSA Concours 1997-2009

All,

I must remind you that, according to Concours Rules, ONLY the Concours
Chairman can recommend changes to the rules. It is then up to the board to
vote on his/her recommendation, yes or no. So thus while the board can
discuss any topic concerning concours rules they want, unless the Concours
Chariman recommends it to the board, the board is powerless to change the
rules. It was set up this way in order to prevent the board from changing
the rules indiscriminately. Concours rules should ONLY be changed after due
and lengthy consideration, and not on a whim. Such could be the case when
tempers flair or should the board be inexperienced in matters of concours
(which is usually the case). (The Concours Chairman's job is also insulated
from the public for this very reason.) It is therefore proper and wise that
ONLY the Concours Chairman be given the power to propose changes, as (s)he
is usually the only one well-qualified enough to make well-reasoned and
deliberate change/recommendations. (Note: no offense meant to any present
company by this.)

-Mark Corbin (been there, done that - the voice of experience)

> [Original Message]
> From: Jack Pinard <corvairjack at yahoo.com>
> To: dal <daluckow at aol.com>; <flat6vair at comcast.net>;
<whubbell at umich.edu>; <vairshop at sbcglobal.net>; <corsabod at corvair.org>;
<scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com>
> Date: 9/16/2009 3:23:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCG] [Corsabod] Factory Stock Corvair Entries and
StockPreservationAward history in CORSA Concours 1997-2009
>
> Mr. Luckow -
>
> Thank you for your service and your personal comments. I would be
interested in any plan you can submit that has as its goal a major increase
in concours participation. I hope that as concours chair you are not
satisfied with the numbers from recent conventions. (45,38,57,60)
>
> If your statement was a decision made by the concours committee as a
whole, please provide minutes of the meeting.
>
> The board of directors has a responsibility to all CORSA members.
>
> When many qualified opinions are sent to board by members concerning any
event or committee the board has a responsibility to respectfully study and
evaluate the topic.
>
> The preferred procedure would be for board first to direct the
appropriate committee to study all suggestions from members, evaluate and
make recommendations for changes if any in a detailed report listing
committee members participating and minutes of all meetings.
>
> The board would then have a body of information for orderly study,
discussion and decision by voting. As you know, discussions are held after
motions are made, not before.
>
> If the committee does not comply with board direction, there are several
other procedures available to board.
>
> However for the board to fail to discuss comments from members is a
serious breach of democratic rule as specific in CORSA governing documents
and would be a public relations disaster at a time when the board is
attempting to restore confidence by improving participation of all CORSA
activities - including concours.
>
> The president does not have sole responsibility or authority to decide
whether member comments are given consideration by board.
>
> And the president does not have authority to restrict board to place a
topic on the agenda of meetings.  
>
> If president refuses to honor a directors request to place a topic on
agenda, the director may introduce as "New Business" or "Old Business".
>
> President Mahler's email comment that "case is closed" does not comply
with his duties as specified in governing documents and
> is disrespectful to the other eleven members of the board of directors.
>
> I believe that directors can "disagree without being disagreeable".
>
> I hope that you share this philosophy.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>  Jack Pinard  
> CORSA Western Division Director
>
> 116 E Garden Green, Port Hueneme CA 93041-1926 
> Cell 805 340-6533


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