[SCG] Orig. '63 near Hollister, CA

Mark Corbin airvair at earthlink.net
Mon Feb 3 15:10:33 EST 2014


Frank,

I'm going to have to jump on you, because the term in the original post was 
"daughter", and that is a direct quote. As far as any "neandertahl or 
chuvanistic pig" goes, maybe you're prejudice against boys, because I was 
just using the original term and the gender of the child was the farthest 
thing from my mind. Plus, and I think recent statistics will bear me out, 
today girls are just as bad as boys in wrapping a car around a tree. Back in 
our day, yes, boys were trying to show off, what with wild/stupid driving, 
etc., but such seems to be not the case with today's youth. Personally, I 
don't think the younger generation (either gender) really cares that much 
for cars. They're too busy with their cell phones, video games, and other 
gadgets; and besides, other than "decorating" a car, you can't really do 
much with any of these new cars like you could cars of our generation.

And speaking of educating people, how can we do that, when the editors of 
the CC don't even want to use the word "sedan" correctly? As editors of the 
official club publication, they are in a powerful position for educating 
people (and not just youth), yet they shirk their responsibilities, then 
laugh at, even mock, me for trying to educate people. And people don't seem 
to grasp the concept that when today's "fair and balanced" newspapers report 
on our conventions, their "new" journalistic standard says that they HAVE to 
mention Ralphie (the "other" side), and that only serves to damage the value 
of our cars. Our conventions aren't about Ralphie, they're about US, and us 
enjoying our wonderful cars. No wonder our hobby is in the place it's in. 
And we as enthusiasts just go along with it and wonder why Corvairs are slow 
appreciators, and not as valued as they should be. To paraphrase the 
political comment, we (collectively) get the hobby we deserve.

The SCG is all about education, and we should take that task seriously, and 
proudly. And not shoot the messenger.

-Mark

-----Original Message----- 
From: corvairduval at cox.net
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 1:40 PM
To: scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com
Subject: Re: [SCG] Orig. '63 near Hollister, CA

Mark,

I'm going to jump on you for the use of the word "daughter".

Are you some neandertahl or male chuvanistic pig? ggg

The word is "teenager".

I've seen more of my share of cars torn up by males of that age group.
Males of our age group back when we were teenagers, usually had an inkling
to check the oil, etc. No more! They do not see their parents do it, so
they never learned where the hood release is. So, add to that the typical
balls to the wall driving of the male youth (see insurance rates for 16 to
25 year old males) and it is very sad what happens to cars.

Now, if any teenager has takes to likeing a paricular car, they will take
care of it. But if it is just transportation wrapped in a classic body, all
bets favor Mark's remark (excpet the insistance on female being the
problem).

We do need new blood. Just look at all the grey hair at our meetings. But,
the new blood has to want to be there. Hopefully by our education of them.

Frank DuVal


Original email:
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From: Mark Corbin airvair at earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 03:07:41 -0500
To: hmlinc at sbcglobal.net, scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com, wrsssatty at aol.com
Subject: Re: [SCG] Orig. '63 near Hollister, CA


JR,

While I agree in principle with needing young blood in CORSA, my
experiences
tell me that the odds are, in this circumstance, going to be long.

Back in the '70's Corvairs were just "old cars", and people often used them
for beaters. The saddest tale is of a 9 year old '63 700 4 door that a
(literally) little old librarian owned. At 23,000 miles on the clock, she
decided on buying a new car, and offered it for sale. The car looked almost
new , but because I couldn't afford to buy it, she sold it to an idiot who
gave it to his daughter to drive to high school. Within a year, the car was
junk, and the first thing that got ripped up was the rear air grill. The
very one that today (and for the last several decades) has been scarcer
than
hen's teeth.

Also had the same kind of thing happen recently, when a fellow club member
gave his adult step daughter a nice original LM. She didn't like the car,
and he eventually took it back. After having to spend several hundred
dollars repairing her damage, some to irreplaceable, non-reproduced parts,
he had learned the same lesson.

Point being is that in this circumstance, the key words are "give",
"daughter", and "drive". My experience is that, odds are, people that are
given cars and had not sought them out and bought them themselves, are
often
not as appreciative of their value. Secondly, females are much less likely
to be automotive enthusiasts than males. And finally, when it's meant to
"drive", that almost certainly says "beater".  All this adds up to very
long
odds that this case will have a good outcome. Hence my original thoughts.
Not knowing the Hansens, what am I to otherwise conclude? I just hope I'm
wrong.

-Mark

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