[SCG] Annual Stock Corvair Event - needs to become a real event

Bob Bauer robovair at sbcglobal.net
Sat Jun 27 16:20:55 EDT 2015


I wholly support your idea,  I think it is one  that has been overlooked or avoided.

I will vote for it, when it comes up.  We need to preserve the original cars

Bob Bauer













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On Sat, 6/27/15, Charles Facklam via SCG-list <scg-list at corvair.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [SCG] Annual Stock Corvair Event - needs to become a real event
 To: lynndee at cwo.com, "'Bill Hubbell'" <whubbell at verizon.net>
 Cc: "'CORSA/CPF BoD'" <corsabod at corvair.org>, "'Stock Corvair Group'" <scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com>
 Date: Saturday, June 27, 2015, 1:09 PM
 
 This is the reason why
 despite being a CORSA member for over 30 years and
 chairman of the 2006 National Convention, I no
 longer take part in CORSA
 events. I have
 become a very engaged member of the AACA (Chaired the
 Eastern
 National AACA Convention last year!)
 because it does recognize the
 importance of
 all original vehicles. I own a 20,000 mile early
 production
 all original 500 1960 coupe which
 proudly displays a AACA HPOF Original
 badge.
 I have never bothered to bring it to a CORSA convention for
 this
 reason. I have proudly displayed it at
 5 AACA National events because there
 the
 vehicles have their own class and are appropriately
 displayed and
 recognized. 
   So enough of my ranting, I will make even a
 more bold suggestion. I
 suggest we have a
 Stock Corvair Group event independent of the CORSA
 convention. I will be happy to lead in its
 arrangements. If people are
 serious I think
 we should start a discussion as to when and where.
 
 Chuck Facklam
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: SCG-list [mailto:scg-list-bounces at corvair.org]
 On Behalf Of Dave
 Palmer via SCG-list
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 11:29 AM
 To: Bill Hubbell
 Cc: CORSA/CPF
 BoD; Stock Corvair Group
 Subject: Re: [SCG]
 Annual Stock Corvair Event - needs to become a real event
 
 I would support Bill's
 proposal to have a new Annual Stock Corvair Event.
 I realize that this is a small number of
 Corvair owners, but there has
 long been a
 need for this unique recognition. The Stock Corvair Group
 has
 laid the groundwork for this important
 preservation and recognition of
 Corvair
 history.
 
 Dave
 Palmer
 CORSA Western Director
 
 
 
 
 > Ten years ago we founded
 the Stock Corvair Group (SCG) as a Special
 > Interest Group chapter of CORSA.  We had
 grand plans at that time to add a
 >
 special event to the CORSA annual convention to address the
 ongoing lack
 > of recognition for stock
 vehicles.  Our Mission statement, our goals, and
 > our detailed plans were all written and
 approved as part of our Chapter
 >
 application and approval, and have been publicly displayed
 on our website
 > ever since -
 http://stock.corvair.org.
 >
 > Unfortunately, we have never managed to
 fully realize our goal to have a
 > formal
 event to showcase, evaluate, and recognize original and
 restored
 > Stock cars and their owners. 
 Early on we had to fight to just to get on
 > the convention schedule, and then we were
 relegated to parking lot
 > meetings and
 half-hearted inspections.  The first year we had to do
 our
 > inspections in a dark garage, out
 of the public eye, and in subsequent
 >
 years it never got much better.  Eventually many of us got
 discouraged and
 > lost interest.
 >
 > This year we were
 once again relegated to a parking garage, and due to
 > poor communication, most of us did not
 even know where we were meeting
 > until
 an hour after we were supposed to start.
 >
 > In the meantime, we
 have once again missed an excellent opportunity to
 > showcase and recognize a wonderful
 original Corvair.  The white '63
 >
 Lambrecht Corvair, purchased by Pete Borchert, made an
 appearance at our
 > convention.  I first
 learned of it after it went through Concours
 > Classification.  I was upset to learn it
 had been classified "Modified"
 > due to non-stock Tires, shocks, and a few
 other consumable items.  I have
 > to
 concede that Concours was simply following their rules,
 whether I agree
 > with them or not.
 >
 > The more significant
 lesson we should take away from this experience,
 > however, is that CORSA does not presently
 have a proper venue for
 > showcasing a
 car such as this at our international convention. 
 Concours
 > is not the proper venue, as it
 is primarily a beauty contest, with reward
 > for achievement in the elusive goal of
 perfection of fit and finish.  The
 >
 goal of preserving originality, however, emphasizes the
 maintenance of fit
 > and finish as
 produced by the factory.  Where Concours emphasizes
 shine
 > and perfection, stock judging
 emphasizes the imperfections of paint
 >
 overspray, factory dings, etc.
 >
 > Not to take anything away from Concours,
 but CORSA should also have an
 > event to
 promote and recognize achievement in preserving originality,
 or
 > in researching and duplicating it
 where preservation is not possible.
 >
 > That event should be the Annual Stock
 Corvair Event (ASCE) as originally
 >
 conceived and detailed in our Chapter Application or
 something of a
 > similar nature.
 >
 > To make this event a
 reality, the ASCE must be elevated in importance from
 > a chapter-sponsored event to a regular
 Convention event, promoted and
 >
 sanctioned by CORSA as an integral part of the convention
 schedule.
 >
 > I
 propose that the event be held concurrent with the Car
 Display (People's
 > Choice) event,
 held on the same field but in a separate, designated
 area,
 > open to viewing by the public. We
 would follow the plan already outlined
 >
 in the SCG Policy for the ASCE, which includes awarding
 certificates of
 > participation.
 >
 > I should note that
 other car clubs already have in place similar events,
 > including:
 >
 > AACA's HPOF (Historic Preservation of
 Original Features) class:
 > http://aacanorthernchapter.com/?p=51
 >
 > Corvette USA's
 "Bloomington Gold" program:
 >
 http://www.bloomingtongold.com/index.php/classic-events/judging/survivor-cor
 vette
 >
 >
 > Also, many
 prestigious Car shows have added survivor or preservation
 > classes, including Pebble Beach, and
 Amelia Island:
 >
 >
 http://classiccars.about.com/od/whatmakesitaclassic/fl/Survivor-and-Preserva
 tion-Class-Cars.htm
 >
 > To pull this off, I would ask CORSA to
 support and promote the event in
 >
 official convention planning and publications, and to begin
 recruiting
 > members to commit to running
 the event for each convention.  The SCG will
 > assist this process to the best of our
 ability.  However, this should
 > become
 a CORSA event, not simply an SCG event.
 >
 > This event is not
 meant to compete in any way with Concours and nothing
 > should preclude cars from participating in
 both events, should their
 > owners so
 choose.
 >
 > However,
 to ease the burden of adding a new event to the already
 busy
 > CORSA schedule, I propose
 initially limiting registration for the ASCE to
 > the first 10 cars the first year,
 gradually increasing the number as we
 >
 gain experience and confidence in the procedure.
 >
 > Please note that I
 have reviewed the above proposal with all current SCG
 > officers and presented it this week to the
 members attending our annual
 > SCG
 meeting held last night.  We are all in agreement that this
 is
 > something that should happen and
 would be beneficial to CORSA.
 >
 > Now, we need your help.  I ask the CORSA
 BOD to take this to the next step
 > -
 discuss it amongst yourselves, make and pass a motion to
 make it a
 > reality.  I and the others
 included on this mailing are available to
 > assist and answer questions to the best of
 our ability.
 >
 > Bill
 Hubbell
 > President, Stock Corvair
 Group.
 >
 > Link to
 ASCE policy:
 >
 >
 http://stock.corvair.org/wordpress/about-scg/policies-2/policy-for-annual-st
 ock-corvair-event-asce/
 >
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