[SCG] Annual Stock Corvair Event - needs to become a real event
Bob Bauer
robovair at sbcglobal.net
Sat Jun 27 16:20:55 EDT 2015
I wholly support your idea, I think it is one that has been overlooked or avoided.
I will vote for it, when it comes up. We need to preserve the original cars
Bob Bauer
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On Sat, 6/27/15, Charles Facklam via SCG-list <scg-list at corvair.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [SCG] Annual Stock Corvair Event - needs to become a real event
To: lynndee at cwo.com, "'Bill Hubbell'" <whubbell at verizon.net>
Cc: "'CORSA/CPF BoD'" <corsabod at corvair.org>, "'Stock Corvair Group'" <scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com>
Date: Saturday, June 27, 2015, 1:09 PM
This is the reason why
despite being a CORSA member for over 30 years and
chairman of the 2006 National Convention, I no
longer take part in CORSA
events. I have
become a very engaged member of the AACA (Chaired the
Eastern
National AACA Convention last year!)
because it does recognize the
importance of
all original vehicles. I own a 20,000 mile early
production
all original 500 1960 coupe which
proudly displays a AACA HPOF Original
badge.
I have never bothered to bring it to a CORSA convention for
this
reason. I have proudly displayed it at
5 AACA National events because there
the
vehicles have their own class and are appropriately
displayed and
recognized.
So enough of my ranting, I will make even a
more bold suggestion. I
suggest we have a
Stock Corvair Group event independent of the CORSA
convention. I will be happy to lead in its
arrangements. If people are
serious I think
we should start a discussion as to when and where.
Chuck Facklam
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Dave
Palmer via SCG-list
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 11:29 AM
To: Bill Hubbell
Cc: CORSA/CPF
BoD; Stock Corvair Group
Subject: Re: [SCG]
Annual Stock Corvair Event - needs to become a real event
I would support Bill's
proposal to have a new Annual Stock Corvair Event.
I realize that this is a small number of
Corvair owners, but there has
long been a
need for this unique recognition. The Stock Corvair Group
has
laid the groundwork for this important
preservation and recognition of
Corvair
history.
Dave
Palmer
CORSA Western Director
> Ten years ago we founded
the Stock Corvair Group (SCG) as a Special
> Interest Group chapter of CORSA. We had
grand plans at that time to add a
>
special event to the CORSA annual convention to address the
ongoing lack
> of recognition for stock
vehicles. Our Mission statement, our goals, and
> our detailed plans were all written and
approved as part of our Chapter
>
application and approval, and have been publicly displayed
on our website
> ever since -
http://stock.corvair.org.
>
> Unfortunately, we have never managed to
fully realize our goal to have a
> formal
event to showcase, evaluate, and recognize original and
restored
> Stock cars and their owners.
Early on we had to fight to just to get on
> the convention schedule, and then we were
relegated to parking lot
> meetings and
half-hearted inspections. The first year we had to do
our
> inspections in a dark garage, out
of the public eye, and in subsequent
>
years it never got much better. Eventually many of us got
discouraged and
> lost interest.
>
> This year we were
once again relegated to a parking garage, and due to
> poor communication, most of us did not
even know where we were meeting
> until
an hour after we were supposed to start.
>
> In the meantime, we
have once again missed an excellent opportunity to
> showcase and recognize a wonderful
original Corvair. The white '63
>
Lambrecht Corvair, purchased by Pete Borchert, made an
appearance at our
> convention. I first
learned of it after it went through Concours
> Classification. I was upset to learn it
had been classified "Modified"
> due to non-stock Tires, shocks, and a few
other consumable items. I have
> to
concede that Concours was simply following their rules,
whether I agree
> with them or not.
>
> The more significant
lesson we should take away from this experience,
> however, is that CORSA does not presently
have a proper venue for
> showcasing a
car such as this at our international convention.
Concours
> is not the proper venue, as it
is primarily a beauty contest, with reward
> for achievement in the elusive goal of
perfection of fit and finish. The
>
goal of preserving originality, however, emphasizes the
maintenance of fit
> and finish as
produced by the factory. Where Concours emphasizes
shine
> and perfection, stock judging
emphasizes the imperfections of paint
>
overspray, factory dings, etc.
>
> Not to take anything away from Concours,
but CORSA should also have an
> event to
promote and recognize achievement in preserving originality,
or
> in researching and duplicating it
where preservation is not possible.
>
> That event should be the Annual Stock
Corvair Event (ASCE) as originally
>
conceived and detailed in our Chapter Application or
something of a
> similar nature.
>
> To make this event a
reality, the ASCE must be elevated in importance from
> a chapter-sponsored event to a regular
Convention event, promoted and
>
sanctioned by CORSA as an integral part of the convention
schedule.
>
> I
propose that the event be held concurrent with the Car
Display (People's
> Choice) event,
held on the same field but in a separate, designated
area,
> open to viewing by the public. We
would follow the plan already outlined
>
in the SCG Policy for the ASCE, which includes awarding
certificates of
> participation.
>
> I should note that
other car clubs already have in place similar events,
> including:
>
> AACA's HPOF (Historic Preservation of
Original Features) class:
> http://aacanorthernchapter.com/?p=51
>
> Corvette USA's
"Bloomington Gold" program:
>
http://www.bloomingtongold.com/index.php/classic-events/judging/survivor-cor
vette
>
>
> Also, many
prestigious Car shows have added survivor or preservation
> classes, including Pebble Beach, and
Amelia Island:
>
>
http://classiccars.about.com/od/whatmakesitaclassic/fl/Survivor-and-Preserva
tion-Class-Cars.htm
>
> To pull this off, I would ask CORSA to
support and promote the event in
>
official convention planning and publications, and to begin
recruiting
> members to commit to running
the event for each convention. The SCG will
> assist this process to the best of our
ability. However, this should
> become
a CORSA event, not simply an SCG event.
>
> This event is not
meant to compete in any way with Concours and nothing
> should preclude cars from participating in
both events, should their
> owners so
choose.
>
> However,
to ease the burden of adding a new event to the already
busy
> CORSA schedule, I propose
initially limiting registration for the ASCE to
> the first 10 cars the first year,
gradually increasing the number as we
>
gain experience and confidence in the procedure.
>
> Please note that I
have reviewed the above proposal with all current SCG
> officers and presented it this week to the
members attending our annual
> SCG
meeting held last night. We are all in agreement that this
is
> something that should happen and
would be beneficial to CORSA.
>
> Now, we need your help. I ask the CORSA
BOD to take this to the next step
> -
discuss it amongst yourselves, make and pass a motion to
make it a
> reality. I and the others
included on this mailing are available to
> assist and answer questions to the best of
our ability.
>
> Bill
Hubbell
> President, Stock Corvair
Group.
>
> Link to
ASCE policy:
>
>
http://stock.corvair.org/wordpress/about-scg/policies-2/policy-for-annual-st
ock-corvair-event-asce/
>
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