Smitty, I can just ignore that comment, you know....oops, too late. Beauty is in the eyes of the beerholder. Toby ~~~~~~~~ From: vairologist@juno.com Subject: <VV> Re: Badge size (would be humor if not so serious) ---------------big snip------------- Smitty says: Just make the badge 7 ft wide and 15 ft long and cover up the whole ugly Late model.