In a message dated 7/9/04 10:10:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mioanes@woh.rr.com writes: << Told him the Corvair was the only car to have been pronounced safe by the DOT...he shut up. Mike Ioanes >> Mike, I think that it was the NHTSA, not DOT. Anyhow ir worked. Regards, Bob Helt