<VV> Interior bright blue paint codes for 1965
Kent Sullivan
kentsu@corvairkid.com
Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:19:38 -0700
Hi all,
The chart you need was published in the September, 1964 issue of Chevy
Service News (p11). Fortunately, Clark's has reprinted this and other
valuable '65 - '69 info from CSN in a booklet: C6962. In that compilation
the chart appears on the third page.
I would be happy to work with someone to explain how to translate the info
in that chart into the form I used for my February 2002 CORSA Communique
article on the same info for 1966 (reprinted on my web site:
http://www.corvairkid.com/66codes.htm; see "Painting the right interior
color; table 2 is the 1966 chart and table 3 is the mapping to Corvair
interior pieces).
--Kent
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtualvairs-admin@corvair.org
> [mailto:virtualvairs-admin@corvair.org] On Behalf Of Norman C. Witte
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 6:50 AM
> To: 'Macdonald David'; virtualvairs@corvair.org
> Subject: <VV> Interior bright blue paint codes for 1965
>
> David, if you don't mind sending the pictures, I would
> appreciate it. Also, I think I want to start a web page on
> '65 blue interiors, so that we can have a place for people to
> look in the future for current paint codes, sources and
> techniques. Since I am going to do an interior color change
> and have to start from scratch, I don't mind hosting this. I
> think I will also include pictures of interiors to provide an
> easier guide to painting.
>
> A couple of additional questions for the list.
>
> 1) I see that Clarks offers interior spray bombs. Any
> experience with these
> relating to '65 bright blue interiors? Also,
>
> 2) Lon, if you are reading, do you carry something for
> this? What can you
> report?
>
> 3) Harry Yarnell mentioned that he painted a steering
> wheel in Red Imron
> and that it worked well but that Imron doesn't come in the
> factory colors.
> Any other experiences with painting steering wheels? Or
> experiences with firms that professionally repaint steering
> wheels? As an aside, the black one on the 180 convertible is
> probably nicer than the one on my 140 coupe, so if I end up
> painting a steering wheel, I will probably swap and paint the
> one from the 140.
>
> 4) How far does the blue dash paint go? For example, is
> the support bracket
> for the steering wheel blue or black?
>
> Norm Witte
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Macdonald David [mailto:dmacd_us@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 9:42 AM
> > To: ncwitte@wittelaw.com; 'Harry Yarnell'; virtualvairs@corvair.org
> > Subject: RE: <VV> Interior (dash) paint codes for 1965?
> >
> >
> > This is the same color scheme as my car. I think there was only one
> > blue interior scheme in '65.
> >
> > I got on the phone to the FLAPS in my area and drew a blank on
> > sourcing this paint (I was only asking about the flat 9196LH dash
> > paint). Seems that Dupont pulled all the lacquer off the shelves
> > earlier this year.
> > According to some it's now banned in Massachusetts, others reported
> > that it's legal here but Dupont killed the whole line.
> >
> > In any case, they could not find a cross reference to that
> paint code
> > in modern paint. After work I went into one of the small
> local cahins
> > where I knew I would find a receptive guy behind the paint counter.
> > He dug in the files and we found the Dupont page with the color
> > samples including my 9196LH. He spent a lot of time trying
> to find a
> > way to make it but, in the end said that he could custom match the
> > color and come close but there was no way that you can get
> to a zero
> > gloss flat using the enamel they sell. He reports that you
> can use a
> > flatener but that will only get you down to 35% gloss. Using more
> > flatener than recommended will result in less gloss, but he told me
> > that he thinks the paint will not hold up and may peel if
> you used too
> > much flatener.
> >
> > I'll continue to look for this paint and report results.
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> > Norm:
> > If you would like, I'll take and send detailed
> > pictures of my car so you can see the factory scheme.
> > It's a coupe but it will be a good reference for most
> > of the interior.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Norman C. Witte" <ncwitte@wittelaw.com> wrote:
> > > Harry, I wanted this info but never asked for it.
> > > How do you do this?
> > >
> > > What I am thinking of doing is converting the
> > > interior in my new convertible
> > > from white and black to bright blue.
> > >
> > > If I go forward, my list of parts to paint are as
> > > follows:
> > >
> > > A-pillar interior trim
> > > Dash pad
> > > Dashboard
> > > Kick panels
> > > Door and quarter sheet metal
> > > Plastic quarterpanel finish piece
> > > Inboard seat pivot covers
> > > Steering column
> > > Steering wheel
> > >
> > > Did I miss anything?
> > >
> > > The best reference I have for the colors comes from
> > > this photo:
> > >
> > > http://www.wittelaw.com/personal/vert/blue3.jpg
> > >
> > > To me it looks like the dash, pad and steering wheel
> > > are dark, while the
> > > rest of the trim is a lighter blue that matches the
> > > vinyl.
> > >
> > > Based upon your info and the photos, I am coming up
> > > with the following as a
> > > starting point:
> > >
> > > A-pillar interior trim..............4623L med.
> > > slate semi-gloss
> > > Dash pad............................9196LH dark
> > > slate flat
> > > Dashboard...........................9196LH dark
> > > slate flat
> > > Kick panels.........................4623L med.
> > > slate semi-gloss
> > > Door and quarter sheet metal........4623L med.
> > > slate semi-gloss
> > > Plastic quarterpanel finish piece...4623L med.
> > > slate semi-gloss
> > > Inboard seat pivot covers...........4623L med.
> > > slate semi-gloss
> > > Steering column.....................9175LH dark
> > > slate semi-gloss
> > > Steering wheel......................9175LH dark
> > > slate semi-gloss
> > >
> > > I recognize that the next step is to convert these
> > > numbers into modern
> > > paints and obtain the right type of paints for the
> > > type of substrate, but am
> > > I on the right track here?
> > >
> > > Also, I thought if I do this I would buy four or
> > > five of the trim pieces for
> > > the quarterpanel for each side and have them painted
> > > at the same time as the
> > > rest of the stuff so that when they break as they
> > > inevitably seem to do I
> > > will have color matched replacement parts on hand.
> > > Just a thought.
> > >
> > >
> > > Norm Witte
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: virtualvairs-admin@corvair.org
> > > > [mailto:virtualvairs-admin@corvair.org]On Behalf
> > > Of Harry Yarnell
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:18 PM
> > > > To: Macdonald David
> > > > Cc: corvair
> > > > Subject: Re: <VV> Interior (dash) paint codes for
> > > 1965?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are three interior blue's for the '65
> > > carline. I think
> > > > there were
> > > > three different blues in the corvair interior;
> > > doors, dash, steering
> > > > column.The dash (the blue part, not the instrument
> > > 'dash')
> > > > was flat; the
> > > > others semi-gloss. Here's what the DuPont chip
> > > booklet says.
> > > > Now they list
> > > > it as Chevrolet, not corvair, but I'm sure they
> > > are the same.
> > > > I've used this
> > > > list to have interior colors mixed for me
> > > (saddle).
> > > >
> > > > 4623L med. slate semi-gloss (doors)
> > > > 9175LH dark slate semi-gloss
> > > > 9196LH dark slate flat
> > > >
> > > > These are old DuPont lacquer numbers, so I don't
> > > know what
> > > > good they are
> > > > today. Good luck.
> > > >
> > > > Harry Yarnell
> > > > perryman garage and orphanage
> > > > perryman, MD
> > > > hyarnell1@earthlink.net
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Macdonald David" <dmacd_us@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: "Harry Yarnell" <hyarnell1@earthlink.net>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 1:01 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: <VV> Interior (dash) paint codes for
> > > 1965?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Should have mentioned the color in my first
> > > e-mail.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's blue inside and out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Harry Yarnell <hyarnell1@earthlink.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > I think I have chip charts from DuPont for the
> > > > > > interior paints, but they
> > > > > > only list by color, not code. What color is
> > > it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harry Yarnell
> > > > > > perryman garage and orphanage
> > > > > > perryman, MD
> > > > > > hyarnell1@earthlink.net
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