<VV> Re: 140 vs 180

[John Sconiers]

Sine we're on the subject.  What would be the going price of a complete 
140 vs 180 (running or not).

JOHN

On Jun 8, 2004, at 8:59 PM, Dennis & Debbie Pleau wrote:

> Ditto what Bruce said.
>
> dp
>
> At 08:06 PM 6/8/2004, Bruce Schug wrote:
>> On Jun 8, 2004, at 7:08 PM, Lluke2136@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > I've owned various 140-powered Corvairs and a '65 Corsa 180. The 180
>> > was a
>> > lot more fun on the street and anvil reliable. No tinkering or 
>> messing
>> > around
>> > with it, it just ran.  Of course it was my Dad's before he passed 
>> away
>> > and was
>> > about the most perfect Corsa I've ever seen.
>> >
>> > I drove a 140 as a daily driver for many, many years. The 140s are
>> > kind of a
>> > pain. They need a preflight about like an airplane before being 
>> driven
>> > to
>> > check for linkage defects and leaking fuel fittings.  Probably a lot
>> > of others
>> > besides me have nailed the throttle in a 140 and had the linkage jam
>> > full open.
>> > There's no way to keep all that monkey motion from going beserk at
>> > some point
>> > without constant fiddling.  And then there's the valve seat disease.
>> >
>> > For daily driving, I vote for a stock 180.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> I just have to disagree with you on this. I've never owned a turbo and
>> wouldn't want a stock one. I've driven some and had friends that had
>> them. I just don't care for a turbo. In stock form they have poor
>> throttle response. They take forever to make any power. You generally
>> have to be in third gear before they get up some boost and start to
>> run. If you modify them so they perform well, you have to be careful 
>> or
>> you'll have so much detonation you'll destroy them. Certainly a
>> properly built turbo can be a blast on the street, but the stock ones
>> I've driven about put me to sleep.
>>
>> There's nothing wrong with the carburetor linkage on a 140. I don't
>> know what your problem was (is). They have to be adjusted, but once
>> done they stay adjusted for years unless you mess with them. Same for
>> fuel leaks. If your fuel lines aren't fastened properly obviously
>> they'll leak. If you have good lines and fasten them properly, they
>> won't leak. As for the valve seat problems, I think most people feel
>> that dropped seats are probably due to engines that don't cool
>> properly. If yours is dirty and full of rat's nests or something you
>> shouldn't expect it to run forever.
>>
>> A 140 is a blast to drive on the street; even a stock one. They have
>> great throttle response and develop power in any gear. It just puzzles
>> me to hear people refer to them as troublesome.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> Bruce W, Schug
>> CORSA South Carolina
>> Greenville, SC
>> bwschug@charter.net
>>
>> CORSA member since 1981
>>
>> '67 Monza. "67AC140"
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