<VV> Re: LM headliner instructions

MGBeaver MGBeaver@Comporium.net
Thu, 27 May 2004 20:16:27 -0400


Barry.
I installed a headliner in my '66 several months back.
Clark's should be able to furnish you with instructions, but if they can't
give me a email off line if you need me to send you a copy.
A couple of things I did in additional to instructions ,
was to clean bows and clear coat them with paint or some clear sealer, also 
keep them in order.
Also I make alot of  small clamps out of old fashion clothes pins, I added 
a rubber band to each
to increase  gripping power. I use these front, back and along the sides 
till the glue dried.
The glue is messy and take your time and let it cure over night.
Some trimming is required but not until the glue has done its job.
I needed to replace most of the plastic molding and pinch rail trim on the 
sides, mainly because
of color change but some of it was worn out.
Good Luck!
Monty Beaver
SC boy









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>    1. Clutch problems (idea) (Sherman Gossett)
>    2. LM Headliner Instructions (BEllison@bbafiberweb.com)
>    3. RE: Re:ques about 63 con. body panels (goofyroo@excite.com)
>    4. RE: wagonwheels, was: <VV> Tired of tires? (Humor) (Brown, Douglas 
> T CIV NAVAIR DEPT)
>    5. Clutch Head Thanks (Keith Hammett)
>    6. Re: LM Headliner Instructions (alan WESSON)
>    7. RE: Bad flywheels (srmarti)
>    8. RE: LM Headliner Instructions (N. Joseph Potts)
>    9. Re: LM Headliner Instructions (Bill Elliott)
>   10. Re: The Throwout Bearing Situation (corvairs)
>   11. Re: Tired of Tires? (Kevmcclain@aol.com)
>   12. Re: LM Headliner Instructions (YENBAT@aol.com)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 20:15:56 +0000
>From: Sherman Gossett <sc.gossett@verizon.net>
>To: virtualvairs@corvair.org
>Subject: <VV> Clutch problems (idea)
>
>I vaguely remember a conversation that went around on the list about 4
>years ago. And someone mentioned a clutch fork being bad. I think it was
>a hairline crack. When the clutch was engaged it would flex. And was not
>visible unless you watched while the clutch was engaged.
>
>Sherman Gossett
>
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>Message: 2
>From: BEllison@bbafiberweb.com
>To: virtualvairs@skiblack.com
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:12:27 -0400
>Subject: <VV> LM Headliner Instructions
>
>I've had a Clarks LM headliner on the shelf for over a year now, and finally
>getting around to installing it.  But I've realized, I have NO idea how this
>thing goes in.  DOH!
>
>Anybody got instructions written up, maybe a website?  Here's just SOME of
>the questions I have.
>
>Back or a side first?  Go around it in a circle, or side to side?
>
>Time to allow glue to set?  How many clamps do I need?
>
>Do you slit the ends of the cloth where the supports go, to allow the liner
>to come to the very edge of the ceiling?
>
>Does it have to be trimmed ?  How tight do you pull it?
>
>Barry Ellison
>Corsa SC
>65 Corsa - having engine sheet metal re-powdercoated due to overcharging
>battery, no interior door panels, no radio, no headliner
>61 Lakewood - next Corvair project
>87 Fleetwood Bounder RV - in for tranny work
>95 Impala SS - won't freakin' run
>00 Duranga - battery just died
>92 Honda Accord - needs tranny work, and cv joints
>84 Honda CRX - needs full front suspension
>
>"My Cup Runneth Over"
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>Message: 3
>To: virtualvairs@corvair.org
>Subject: RE: <VV> Re:ques about 63 con. body panels
>Reply-To: goofyroo@excite.com
>From: "goofyroo@excite.com" <goofyroo@excite.com>
>Cc: penneyracer1@earthlink.net
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:29:24 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Comments interspersed:
> >>>1. in disassembling the front end, i found a curved piece of metal 
> with mounting bolts on the bottom in the passenger side fender. is there 
> supposed to be one on the drivers side too?
>
>Sounds like the headlamp housing/horn shield.  Does it look kinda like the 
>mastodon ribs the carhop drops on Fred Flintstone's car in the closing 
>credits?  Without it, the horn(s) will fill up with mud very 
>quickly.  DAMHIK.  Possibly a PO took one out to work in there but didn't 
>bother putting it back.
>
> >>>2. I need to replace some small pieces of the fenders and the front 
> splash panel. What's everybodies take on using the fiberglass panels? I 
> am somewhat concerned about replacing metal with fiberglass.
>
>IMO you should be concerned.  Fiberglass is cheaper.  I'm no body expert, 
>but I have heard that it doesn't last -- expansion/contraction rates are 
>different, and cracks will appear sooner or later.
>
>Michael Smith
>Dallas
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>Message: 4
>Subject: RE: wagonwheels, was: <VV> Tired of tires? (Humor)
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 06:39:17 -0700
>From: "Brown, Douglas T CIV NAVAIR DEPT" <douglas.t.brown@navy.mil>
>To: <airvair@richnet.net>, <jsconiers@mac.com>
>Cc: <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
>
>No Mark, a ridiculus fad is where the silly wheels keep turning when the car
>comes to a stop!  I can't walk past a parked one of those without giving a
>couple of the wheels a spin.  It just cracks me up to no end!!!
>
>Toby (easily amused) Brown
>
>~~~~~~Original Message~~~~~~
>Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 17:45:50 -0400
>From: airvair <airvair@richnet.net>
>
>Subject: wagonwheels, was: <VV> Tired of tires?
>
><SNIP> I call them
>wagonwheels, as in Conastoga. A rediculous fad if there ever was one.
>
><SNIP>
>
>-Mark
>
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>Message: 5
>Reply-To: <khammett@stainlessfab.com>
>From: "Keith Hammett" <khammett@stainlessfab.com>
>To: <corvanatics@corvair.org>
>Cc: <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:07:11 -0500
>Subject: <VV> Clutch Head Thanks
>
>Thanks to everybody who responded to my question on the size of the clutch
>head bolts.  You have not only helped me but several others that needed the
>same socket.
>
>Again the socket from Snap-On is number F30.
>
>Thanks again, now back to the tire debate on VV.
>
>Keith Hammett
>
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>Message: 6
>From: "alan WESSON" <sidevalve@sidevalve.fsnet.co.uk>
>To: <BEllison@bbafiberweb.com>, <virtualvairs@skiblack.com>
>Subject: Re: <VV> LM Headliner Instructions
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 15:19:39 +0100
>
> > I've had a Clarks LM headliner on the shelf for over a year now, and
>finally
> > getting around to installing it.  But I've realized, I have NO idea how
>this
> > thing goes in.  DOH!
>
> From what I have heard, the answer to this question is 'with extreme
>difficulty, a lot of swearing and a high risk of tearing it'.
>
>Maybe this assessment was from a pessimist!
>
>Cheers
>
>Alan
>
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>Message: 7
>From: "srmarti" <srmarti@netzero.net>
>To: <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:12:47 -0400
>Subject: <VV> RE: Bad flywheels
>
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:02:47 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Ken <lcm8044@yahoo.com>
> > To: virtualvairs@corvair.org
> > Subject: <VV> Flywheel Rivet Replacement
> >
> > I am ready to begin replacement of the rivets in the flywheel.
> > The flywheel is on my bench, and I have 12 grade 8 5/16" X >"
> > bolts, with all metal lock nuts, and a drill press up to the
> > challenge. The only question I have is what the torque setting
> > should be. My best guess is 25 foot pounds. Please let me know if
> > Im too far off base. In the 8th addition of How to Keep Your
> > Corvair Alive, page 43, Mr. Finch was clear on everything but the torque.
> >
> > One semi-interesting side note:  I wanted to prove to myself that
> > the rivets were loose, there is nothing that moves or that would
> > visually note one or more being loose. While it was still bolted
> > to the crank shaft I struck the flywheel with a small ball peen
> > hammer. The result was a sound much like a tuning fork, that
> > placing my hand on the flywheel did not stop. The sound was
> > coming from the piece of metal sandwiched in the center. Then
> > again, the sound may mean nothing, but the rivets are coming out,
> > one broken snout is enough. The last step is trip to the local
> > balance shop.
> >
> > Ken Morgan
> >
> > Olympia, Wa.
> >
> > 66 Corsa, 140 / 4
> >
> > 62 Impala SS 327 P/G
> >
> >
>My experience with loose flywheel rivets is:
>
>1. The flywheel doesn't ring when hit, it buzzes.
>
>2. At higher rpm the engine vibrates badly.
>
>Might be fixing the wrong part.  Bolted flywheels aren't a bad idea, but my
>broken starter nose incidents where the result of an eccentric ring gear.
>Broken ring gear to clutch cover welds.
>
>Steve Marti
>
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>Message: 8
>From: "N. Joseph Potts" <pottsf@msn.com>
>To: <BEllison@bbafiberweb.com>, <virtualvairs@skiblack.com>
>Subject: RE: <VV> LM Headliner Instructions
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:38:47 -0400
>
>Don't forget to check with Clark's. Not only do they supply written
>instructions for installing many of the items they sell, but they offer
>phone/e-mail support for people trying to install their stuff, too.
>      Sorry I can't help directly with your questions.
>
>Joe Potts
>Miami, Florida USA
>1966 Corsa coupe 140hp 4-speed with A/C
>
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>BEllison@bbafiberweb.com
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>To: virtualvairs@skiblack.com
>Subject: <VV> LM Headliner Instructions
>
>
>I've had a Clarks LM headliner on the shelf for over a year now, and finally
>getting around to installing it.  But I've realized, I have NO idea how this
>thing goes in.  DOH!
>
>Anybody got instructions written up, maybe a website?  Here's just SOME of
>the questions I have.
>
>Back or a side first?  Go around it in a circle, or side to side?
>
>Time to allow glue to set?  How many clamps do I need?
>
>Do you slit the ends of the cloth where the supports go, to allow the liner
>to come to the very edge of the ceiling?
>
>Does it have to be trimmed ?  How tight do you pull it?
>
>Barry Ellison
>
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>Message: 9
>From: "Bill Elliott" <Corvair@fnader.com>
>To: "virtualvairs@skiblack.com" <virtualvairs@skiblack.com>
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:24:56 -0400
>Reply-To: "Bill Elliott" <Corvair@fnader.com>
>Subject: Re: <VV> LM Headliner Instructions
>
>It's EASY to install a headliner. The difficult part is making it look good!
>
>It's been a while since I installed one, but I seem to remember very 
>little trimming at all, starting at the front and working my way back. A 
>heat gun
>would be a better idea than the hairdrier I used...
>
>In the end it took a couple of hours and only a couple of unsightly 
>wrinkles... I would have to think long and hard before attempting 
>another... I think
>many upholstery shops will install one for around $100....
>
>Bill Elliott
>
> >> I've had a Clarks LM headliner on the shelf for over a year now, and
> >finally
> >> getting around to installing it.  But I've realized, I have NO idea how
> >this
> >> thing goes in.  DOH!
>
> >From what I have heard, the answer to this question is 'with extreme
> >difficulty, a lot of swearing and a high risk of tearing it'.
>
> >Maybe this assessment was from a pessimist!
>
> >Cheers
>
> >Alan
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 08:52:49 -0700
>From: corvairs <lonwall@corvairunderground.com>
>To: * Greenbrier Goon * <greenbriergoon@hotmail.com>
>Cc: corvanatics@corvair.org, virtualvairs@skiblack.com
>Subject: Re: <VV> The Throwout Bearing Situation
>
>Who says that? Lon
>
>www.corvairunderground.com
>
>* Greenbrier Goon * wrote:
>
> > Hey everybody:
> >
> > Since the correct height t/o bearing does not seem to be available for
> > early 'vairs, what do we do?
>
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>Message: 11
>From: Kevmcclain@aol.com
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:06:40 EDT
>To: virtualvairs@corvair.org
>Subject: <VV> Re: Tired of Tires?
>
>Man, this is a busy thread! I'm with the 13 crew on this, better ride,
>lighter, what more could you ask for? I can't wait till this enormous 
>wheel thing
>goes out of style. Guy's drive around on 20's, 22's, and even 26's, thinking
>they've found something new and cool. the 1917 ford model T came from the 
>factory
>with 30" wheels. - Kevin McClain
>
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>Message: 12
>From: YENBAT@aol.com
>Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 12:44:45 EDT
>Subject: Re: <VV> LM Headliner Instructions
>To: sidevalve@sidevalve.fsnet.co.uk, BEllison@bbafiberweb.com,
>    virtualvairs@skiblack.com
>
>In a message dated 5/27/04 7:20:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>sidevalve@sidevalve.fsnet.co.uk writes:
> > I've had a Clarks LM headliner on the shelf for over a year now, and
>finally
> > getting around to installing it.  But I've realized, I have NO idea how
>this
> > thing goes in.  DOH!
>
> From what I have heard, the answer to this question is 'with extreme
>difficulty, a lot of swearing and a high risk of tearing it'.
>
>Maybe this assessment was from a pessimist!
>
>Cheers
>
>Alan
>
>Or....
>
>
>An Optimist?
>
>Tim Abney
>
>
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