<VV> Re:was Caveman question/ now lighters

[kaczmarek@charter.net]

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> 
> > airvair@richnet.net writes:
> 
> > What's old is new again. My top-of-the-line '03 Cav doesn't have the 
> > lighter, but rather just a plastic plug in the hole. No ash tray either. 
> > Have seen N-body cars the same way, but with an (optional) cup assembly 
> > with a lid that 
> 
No, Hell isn't freezing over. GM and Ford (that I have knowledge of) started eliminating Ash Trays and Lighters about 5 model years ago. 

My 00 Ranger (an XLT, which is the TOP TRIM LEVEL)offered on that truck, has a 12 Volt Power Port in the radio trim bezel. NO LIGHTER, NO ASHTRAY. 


WCUH SEZ

> Is that Cavalier??   How can "bottom of the bucket",  have a "top"????  GGGG

No, It's a CRAPALIER. However, the 2.2 Ecotech engine that Mark probably has in his, is pretty peppy. And for the price, I would rather have a Crapalier than something from another country. Overall, they aren't that bad of a car. Take proper care of it, and it will last as long as any import.  MO, of course. 


As for the N Platform (Malibu,Grand AM and Alero), the "Smokers Kit" that fits in the console is OPTIONAL, but only costs about 5 bucks. I think the co. that makes them for FORD makes them for the General as well, they pretty much look the same. We threw ours out when Wanda quit smoking about a year ago. 
> 
> Any decently equipped car / truck has "POWER PORT[s]"  and many have a 
> lighter socket right next to a "powerport" [  PP's do not have the "catch" in them 
> for lighters]
> 
> NOTE:    ALL  Corvairs purchased by "smart / well educated"  buyers were 
> equipped with lighters!
> 
> wcuh
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