<VV> Traction control

Bill Elliott Bill Elliott" <Corvair@fnader.com
Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:45:20 -0400


You're making me miss the midwest!!

Rick is an awesome ice driver!

Since we're talking traction control, etc...one thing I will tell you is that a posi is a net negative on the ice. 
While you do get a slightly better  launch and the ability to accelerate almost as effectively as the 
AWD's, there is no "steady state" in curves. With an open diff you can lightly feather the brake with e left 
foot and keep constant pressure on the throttle... with a posi you essentially go around the track 
sideways...even in a "steady state" the rear will walk out.

I never felt I needed more weight up front, but I DID run with my spare tire and toolbox up there...

On the street, I value a posi for slogging through deep snow... but that's about it.

Modern traction control is pretty cool, though... you can keep your foot planted and let the car figure out 
how to get the best traction. With a good program, it can outperform a skilled driver (unlike ABS where a 
skilled driver can usually outperform the system). With a less than optimal program, it can take away 
your power steering in the middle of a curve....

Bill Elliott

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:26:25 -0500, J R Read_HML wrote:

>Hank...  My ice race technique is ... essentially hang the A//  rear out and 
>steer with the throttle.  It is a blast - and I can beat Rick even without 
>extra weight up front.  Ask him about the time he got the most spectacular 
>spin of the day award.  Came across the finish line in REVERSE.

>It DOES help to have at least a little snow on top of the ice at least along 
>the edge of the "track".  The Corvairs can hang the rear in the snow to pick 
>up some extra traction and speed.