Norm, You are head of Group Red... Keith Hammett '62 rampside (group red, should be out soon) '65 Monza Vert (group red, long time member) '66 Monza Coupe (permanent member group red) -----Original Message----- Right now I have two Corvairs and a '63 Olds 98 -- all inop. It is maddening. I think I will go home and work on the car. Norm