<VV> Who needs NorthStar to unlock your car.

[Dave Morris]

Right.  And recently in Germany, a factory Porsche driver was convicted of 
causing an accident on the Autobahn while driving 170mph, and the way they 
proved it was to get the records from the cellphone towers and do some 
calculations.

But in all of these cases, we're talking about CRIMINALS.  Is there anyone 
here who would like to make a confession?  Otherwise, we're worrying about 
government use of a technology to interfere with non-criminal 
activity.  Which they don't have time to do, to my knowledge.

Dave Morris


At 12:41 PM 6/6/2005, you wrote:
>This is not true.  OnStar was not designed for surveillance but it can be 
>used for surveilance.  The same with  IPASS.  In fact thats how they got 
>the idea.  My cousin is a mechanic but does side work as a repo man.  When 
>someone is hiding the car at a friend or family members house they use 
>onstar to locate it.  There is also a federal case right now in which they 
>are trying to decide if onstar / IPASS tracking is admissable in 
>court.  IPASS was already used in a state murder trial.  Cell phones also 
>weren't made to track people but they can be used for that purpose as 
>well...just ask Scott Peterson.
>JOHN
>PS: I'm assuming you know ipass is the new fangled way to pay your toll 
>with a little computer gizmo on your dash (in illinois) and Scott Peterson 
>was convicted of killing Laci Peterson a while ago.
>
>Dave Morris wrote:
>
>>OnStar is a really cool system.  But it's not designed for surveillance 
>>by big brother.  For-profit companies do not design things for the 
>>government to take over.  It's a money-maker for them, pure and 
>>simple.  A great way to produce a monthly subscription fee from every GM 
>>car owner.
>>
>>If you have a lot of time on your hands and want to see a bunch of people 
>>driving around with GPS transmitters, check out this web site:
>>http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/dmap.cgi?&offsetx=20&offsety=-90&scale=1.3&width=640&height=&height%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&map=usa.mp&last=24&nocall=1 
>>
>>
>>It's real-time.
>>
>>Dave Morris
>>
>>
>>At 10:54 AM 6/6/2005, you wrote:
>>
>>>In a message dated 6/6/05 8:48:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
>>>Yenko119 at aol.com writes:
>>>
>>>>Actually it's called OnStar!
>>>>
>>>>By 2007 it will be installed on EVERY GM vehicle they build.
>>>>
>>>>Bill"Swamp-Rat"Hadley
>>>
>>>
>>>BTW, we all should be concerned about this. OnStar tracks the location 
>>>of your vehicle so they know where you are and where you have been. Just 
>>>wait until all your traveling becomes part of the FED surveillance 
>>>system.  Big Brother will be watching your every move.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Bob Helt
>>
>>
>>
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