<VV> Stolen Corvair recovered

Ron ronh at owt.com
Mon May 23 18:59:08 EDT 2005


Ans as a California Sheriff's Sargent once told me, "if you have to shoot 
someone, empty your gun into him so he can't turn around and claim that his 
rights have been violated"!
RonH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Houston" <tampatexan at earthlink.net>
To: "Dave Morris" <BigD at davemorris.com>
Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Stolen Corvair recovered


> Actually, in the UK the people are "Subjects"...  (no guns allowed)..  We 
> are "Citizens" ... (firearms allowed for protection).  They just removed 
> the "duty to retreat" law here in Florida -- if you catch someone in your 
> house, and you feel that your life is in danger, you can now shoot first 
> and ask questions later...  (just don't shoot him in the back!)...
>
> Jim Houston
> Brandon, FL
>
> Dave Morris wrote:
>
>>
>>> At 08:44 hours 05/23/2005, Bill Elliott wrote:
>>>
>>>> Current case law gives you the right of self-defense ONLY when your 
>>>> life (or someone else's life) is threatened, NOT when you are "merely" 
>>>> protecting property. (For the logical evolution of this line of 
>>>> thought, check out the UK citizen who shot armed thiefs IN HIS HOME and 
>>>> went to jail for a far longer period than the criminals for using 
>>>> "unauthorized force".) I understand that even the police are not 
>>>> authorized to use deadly force if ONLY property is endangered. So Tony, 
>>>> think twice about slapping that perp with a rock unless he's in your 
>>>> house...
>>>>
>>>> Bill Elliott
>>>
>>
>> Wonder if the operative phrase here is "UK citizen".  Every state and 
>> country has its own laws.  Here in Texas, for instance, it used to be OK 
>> to shoot a horse thief.  And we just traded our horses in on cars pretty 
>> recently.  So it may actually still be legal here to shoot someone who is 
>> stealing your 110 horses!  I wouldn't advise anybody to kill another 
>> human just because he was taking his $3000 rust bucket, but I do 
>> understand the frustration with crime.
>>
>>
>> Dave Morris
>>
>>
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