<VV> Rocker Arms--enough already

[Garth Stapon]

Hi:

I agree.

Please take this off line.

Enough is enough!

Regards, Garth

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Robbins <robbins at monticello.net>
Sent: Oct 11, 2005 4:51 AM
To: 'Virtaul Vairs' <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>, 'fastvair' <fastvair at yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: <VV> Rocker Arms--enough already

Yes, for those of us on both lists we get to see this twice and we shouldn't
have to see it once. Settle it on the play ground at recess, juts leave us
out of the loop.

Joe Robbins


-----Original Message-----
From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Kubin
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:45 PM
To: 'Virtaul Vairs'; 'fastvair'
Subject: <VV> Rocker Arms--enough

OK boys, time to take it outside and fight it out
without the rest of us watching...PLEASE.
The 168 VV mails I got today are enough.

Chuck


--- "David C. Herrin III" <source at adnc.com> wrote:

> Verifying that all of these rocker arms Pioneer /
> Elgin, (or Sealed Power,
> TRW, etc.) do not fit !
> 
>  is so simple  -  so obvious = use only your eyes - 
> they are visually wrong
> - no measuring is necessary ! 
> 
> Several competent Corvair Mechanics should attest to
> the fact - that all
> brands DO NOT FIT !
> 
> i.e. Bob Coffin, Ed Corson, Bob Helt, Tom Schrum,
> Warren LaVeque, Jim Davis,
> Jim Craig, Bob Galli, Fran Schmit, etc. etc.  No
> offense if I forgot you  :
> )
> 
>  
> 
> The " toe end " of the rocker arm does not properly
> contact the tip of the
> engine valve stem !!!
> 
> My quote - "All of these SBC 1.5 & 1.6 ratio rockers
> just do not fit
> correctly;
> 
> they will wear the valve tip and more important side
> load the valve guide
> excessively 
> 
> - esp. the softer bronze materials. Some have slots
> that are too short and
> or not wide enough - that gall and fracture the
> studs, etc. Some lack the
> proper oiling feature ... squeaks and rattles, etc."
> 
>  
> 
> David 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: corvanatics-bounces at corvair.org
> [mailto:corvanatics-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf
> Of David C. Herrin III
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:13 PM
> To: 'The Corvanatics list'; 'Corvair engines for
> homebuilt aircraft'
> Cc: 'Virtaul Vairs'; 'fastvair'
> Subject: RE: [FC] Re: CorvAircraft> Rocker Arms -
> Advertisement
> 
>  
> 
> Okay prove that the product - this case Pioneer
> Rocker Arms - that you tout
> 
> actually fit properly.
> 
>  
> 
> Show us all a sample, a display, a blueprint, etc.
> 
>  
> 
> David
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> There isn't a thing wrong with Pioneers - they are
> the only brand that is
> 
> correct - other than older NOS stuff of course - Lon
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> As to another's opinion - who is much more qualified
> to comment - than you:
> 
>  
> 
> Above is how we install rocker arms today. At the
> beginning of my Conversion
> 
> Manual, I state that I reserve the right to get
> smarter. While there is
> 
> nothing wrong with the previous ways in which we
> secured the rocker arm
> 
> nuts, here is how we build every engine these days:
> The NAS nuts are
> 
> available from AC, the grade 8 nuts are from your
> local store, the grooved
> 
> balls are from C. We have a tumbler set up with
> ceramic media to clean and
> 
> polish GM rocker arms. None of the replacement
> rocker arms, especially not
> 
> the ones made by Pioneer, have the correct geometry
> to use stock length
> 
> pushrods. Thus, we use reconditioned stock rockers.
> The rocker studs we also
> 
> tumble and inspect to ensure they're not bent and
> have no nicks or grooves
> 
> worn in them. 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Tirades ? Ridiculous Claims ?
> 
>  
> 
> Your blatant Counterfeiting and Copycatting - they
> are all true  !
> 
>  
> 
> - pick a court of competent jurisdiction and
> litigate me ...
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Where do I begin? Just here - as in numerous past
> tirades on your part 
> 
>  
> 
> on virtualvairs and fastvairs you have made
> ridiculous claims that you 
> 
>  
> 
> have been called on to prove - with no response.
> Other Corvair vendors 
> 
>  
> 
> can defend themselves (and when it comes to you,
> usually can without 
> 
>  
> 
> much effort) but my company has always sold correct
> Corvair rocker assys 
> 
>  
> 
> - period.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> "virtually all the rocker arms "cataloged" to fit
> Corvairs 
> 
>  
> 
> and sold by "other" Corvair Vendors = None are
> suitable for our use !"
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Maybe it's the precise way you have worded this
> ridiculous statement. Well
> 
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