In a message dated 2/2/2006 4:39:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, pp2 at 6007.us writes: Consequently you can have either a "fixed head coupe" or a 'drop head coupe" neither of which is a "roadster". My vert then is a drop head sedan. Is it time to turn into a saloon ? Padgett Every time my head drops, it's time to turn into a saloon. - Seth