<VV> Kelsey-Hayes Wheels
Eric S. Eberhard
flash at vicsmba.com
Fri Sep 22 17:02:28 EDT 2006
I use tubes and protectors ... it does not seem to be a problem?
At 07:50 PM 9/21/2006, you wrote:
>As long as you keep them on the correct side so that they remain
>"self-tightening" there should be no problem, except maybe requiring
>tubes, and inner tube liners to protect the tube ?
>
>I wonder, could the inside of the wire wheel be sprayed with gunk to seal it ?
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric S. Eberhard" <flash at vicsmba.com>
>To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 2:06 PM
>Subject: Re: <VV> Kelsey-Hayes Wheels
>
>
>>My daily driver is a 62 sedan with (fairly poor) K-H wheels. I
>>have had them for years and 20k miles ... never a problem. No
>>leaks. No need to true them. My wife's wagon which is driven
>>fairly often has a nice set, same thing, never a problem.
>>
>>In general I have found all the rumors about them being a problem
>>are unfounded.
>>
>>At 05:40 AM 9/19/2006, you wrote:
>>>At the time, the K-H wires were the most expensive option available,
>>>even surpassing a/c in price. Add a set to a Spyder or a/c car and you
>>>could probably have bought a Corvette instead.
>>>
>>>Also, as is pointed out, they require tubes, correct maintenance, and
>>>add unsprung weight like crazy, and it all adds up to gross
>>>impracticability. Which is why they didn't sell very many sets, despite
>>>their dynamite looks.
>>>
>>>At the time, we in Friends of Corvair (Don Schneider's local club)
>>>kidded him about how he was trying to corner the market, as he managed
>>>to collect 10 full sets, most of them of show quality. At least half of
>>>the sets went onto various show cars that he built, and he even modified
>>>one or two sets of adapters for 5 lug use on lates, before concluding
>>>that it was better to convert the late hubs over to 4 studs. He even
>>>found that '65-6 horn button inserts could be used as centers in the
>>>knock-off nuts, and modified about two sets with Corsa inserts for use
>>>on Corsa show cars.
>>>
>>>Which is about the only thing K-H wires are good for - show cars.
>>>
>>>BTW, over the years, I've seen any number of pieces and partial sets for
>>>sale in swap meets. I always thought that if someone with deep pockets
>>>were to buy up all the partial sets, they could assemble who knows how
>>>many more full sets. And/or offer replacement parts for those already
>>>out there. And no, I don't have deep enough pockets for such a venture.
>>>It's just my idle thinking....
>>>
>>>-Mark
>>>
>>>Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I heard that there were about 300 Corvairs, 1962-1964, that
>>> went for > the
>>> > $495 option on a $2,500 car.
>>> >
>>> > I'm not certain of the price as new, but it was "up there" by 1960's
>>> > standards.
>>> >
>>> > Dave should know this bit of info - Dave are you there ?
>>> >
>>> > Back about 1985, I wrote to Kelsey Hayes for design specs etc,
>>> which > they
>>> > didn't have, but he did add that he had a "bunch of them" in a
>>> back > room,
>>> > and "Do you want them ?"
>>> >
>>> > So, "Uh... Yes." and I got them NOS.
>>> >
>>> > I sold them for about the "new" price, just to be "authentic" about it.
>>> >
>>> > I know one set was modified (I didn't get the adapters) to fit Don
>>> > Schneider's "Black Widow Corsa" and I think another set went on
>>> the > white
>>> > counterpart to that car.
>>> >
>>> > I had a set for my 1962 Lakewood, which I ran at Lime Rock with
>>> them, > and
>>> > that is definitely something that you DO NOT WANT TO DO !!!!!
>>> It was > like
>>> > having sandbags on all four corners (at least in part due to it being a
>>> > wagon, but mostly those wheels !)
>>> >
>>> > http://www.yourbuyersinn.com/1962LakewoodWWs.JPG
>>> >
>>> > There were two kind of spinner inserts too. I believe that the early
>>> > (1962-63) version has a burnished, almost purple, insert with a
>>> Chevy > "V"
>>> > shaped emblem on it, while the later (1964 ?) was "spun"
>>> aluminum > inserts
>>> > with a Chevy bowtie, which is the more common version that I've seen.
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: <TimogensTurbo at aol.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: <VV> Kelsey-Hayes Wheels
>>> >
>>> > > In a message dated 9/18/2006 7:45:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>>> > > john at nfdc.net
>>> > > writes:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Does anyone know how many Kelsey -Hayes wheels were produced for the
>>> > >> 13"-4
>>> > >> lug early Corvairs? Also, were they a $300.00 option as I
>>>have heard? I
>>> > >> have a set of 4 with spinners plus an extra wheel w/o the hub and
>>> > >> spinner. I
>>> > >> just want to know how rare an option I have.
>>> > >>
>>> > > ================================================
>>> > > Let's put it this way....almost every meet I go to I see a 65-6 Corsa
>>> > > Turbo
>>> > > vert..supposedly real rare......
>>> > >
>>> > > I've only seen a few dozen real K-H wires in 40 yrs......why
>>> they go > > for
>>> > > $2000+
>>> > >
>>> > > Matt Nall
>>> > > stocker, mod, v8, turbo, boat, Sandcar
>>> > > ALLVAIR!
>>> > > Timogen was a softy!
>>>
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Corvair pictures including the Judson setup on our 62 Sedan and lots
of pictures of Cheryl's 62 Monza Wagon and our 62 Spyder convertible.
http://www.vicsmba.com/ourpics/corvairs.html
My little brother Martin has started a very serious car company. A
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