<VV> Brakes MC

[BBRT]

An MC helps in those situations where the failure occurs at a wheel, like in 
Tony's case.  However, a dual  MC (69 Olds Toro) can fail where the fluid 
passes the plungers within the MC. It is a much rarer occurrence but it can 
happen and one gets the honor and privilege of driving home on the E 
Brake... or you can leave it and have it towed... but when one has zero 
funds, it isn't much of a choice!  LOL!

Chuck S
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris C" <ricorvair at cox.net>
To: "VirtualVairs AA" <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Not really enjoying VV anymore? Vair technical content!


> No but thanks for jinxing me.
>
> Would a dual MC have helped???  I put one in the wifes 63 a few years 
> back, cause it sounded like a good idea.
>
>
> Tony Underwood wrote:
>> At 11:25 AM 4/17/2007, Ken Wildman wrote:
>>
>>>> Let's talk about Corvairs instead.
>>>
>>>
>>> Big thumbs up!
>>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> Good point.    Here's to it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Speaking of which:
>>
>>
>> I almost bought a Geo Storm this morning.    I didn't.    But almost.
>>
>>
>> The kid missed the school bus because it was EARLY so I took her to 
>> school.    Of course she remained somewhat tentative, as regards being 
>> seen exiting from my '60 4-door 700 as I pull up to the door at William 
>> Byrd  high school...     status and such, bad juju to be seen getting out 
>> of an ugly car.
>>
>> On the way to work, going down a hill, approaching the light with traffic 
>> etc I stepped on the brake pedal as I am wont to do when I wish to stop 
>> the car and it didn't stop.   Pedal squished to the floor.
>>
>> Pumppumppump, no joy, just squishes.   The back bumper of that Geo Storm 
>> was rapidly approaching.    I pulled the e-brake handle (while 
>> remembering the last resort of flipping it into R) and the handle came 
>> almost ALL the way up before meeting any resistance...  but it finally 
>> did and the driver side rear wheel locked up and *Screamed* the whole way 
>> as the car finally stopped about 3 feet from the Storm's rear bumper as I 
>> continued pumping the pedal, again no joy.
>>
>> Of course everybody was looking...  made a pretty obvious impression, 
>> what with the 4-door's current appearance etc.
>>
>>
>> I pulled off to the side into a lot, dealing with the e-brake handle to 
>> stop the car.    Checked brake fluid levels, poured a BUNCH into the 
>> master cylinder, got back in, squish to the floor again.     So, I 
>> squished a few more times, then walked around looking for the leak. 
>> Found it at the right rear wheel...
>>
>> ??  New brake lines all over the car, recent brake job, including wheel 
>> cylinder rebuilds.    But it was leaking at the right rear... in fact 
>> brake fluid was all over the entire back side of the tire.    Soaked.
>>
>> I limped back to the house, making good use of the e-brake while also 
>> noticing a scraping noise from the back.   Jacked up, pulled the tire 
>> off, brake fluid everywhere, draining off the tire.    Pulled the drum 
>> off after an argument with it because it acted stuck.
>>
>>
>> One shoe had no lining on it, trailing shoe, completely bald.   The 
>> lining was crumpled up and distributed around inside the drum/backing 
>> plate, and the wheel cylinder cup and piston to the  rear, the side that 
>> presses the trailing shoe, had popped out of the wheel cylinder.    One 
>> of the brake lining chunks had stuffed itself against the bald shoe and 
>> had stuck it "open" where it was grinding bigtime against the drum.
>>
>>
>> I pressure washed it all, rebuilt the wheel cylinder, replaced the shoes, 
>> found a fresh drum, put it all back and all is well.    Brakes are back 
>> to like they were before the surprise adrenaline rush this morning.
>>
>>
>> ONCE before about 15 years ago I saw a brake shoe that had parted company 
>> with its lining, but that was something on a car that had been sitting a 
>> very long time, went to redo brakes and the lining fell out of the drum 
>> when it was removed, left the bare shoe in place etc.   Just fell out, 
>> intact and complete, looked like it would work fine if it was just glued 
>> back on the shoe.    Never saw one do it before... now I've seen two.
>>
>> *This* lost lining on the '60 came off a shoe that was part of the brake 
>> overhaul the car got about two years ago and it was parked for the winter 
>> last year (well, in the Fall of 2005).      Not more than about 9000 
>> miles on them, tops.    Chinese brake shoes or something...?  Or just a 
>> fluke?    Anyway, it's back together and doing well again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone else have a shoe shed its lining?    A relatively fresh shoe and 
>> not something 20+ years old?
>>
>>
>>
>> tony..
>
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