<VV> Clattering Lifters
JVHRoberts at aol.com
JVHRoberts at aol.com
Fri Dec 21 14:15:34 EST 2007
The one other cause of noisy lifters I've discovered is excessively aerated
oil. The clue was, the more full the crankcase, the quieter they were. My
theory is, the more oil, the more time it has to let the air float out. I also
had one engine with a loose oil pickup that clattered to beat the band! When I
had the pan off to fix a pan leak, I pulled the pickup, put a thin layer of
sealant on it, and VOILA! Lifters were quiet afterwards.
Given that higher mileage Corvair engines tend to be leakers/oil burners,
low oil level can also do it. I've had troubles with anything less than up to
the full line, and have sometimes gone over that.
In a message dated 12/21/2007 1:41:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
vairologist at verizon.net writes:
From: James Davis
Subject: Re: now lifter oil loss
Any time lifters "pump up" it is because of loft on the cam lobe nose
. In other words the lifter is not following the cam lobe. Cure is
heavier valve springs, different cam lobe profile, lighter valve
train components, stiffer push rods, less rpm ;-). The usual
culprit valve is operating the engine at a rpm that is at the valve
spring resonance frequency or one of its harmonic
frequencies. Lifter collapsing can be due to several problems: low
oil pressure, oil contamination, lifter pump clearance, non circular
base circle on the camshaft, high valve spring pressure; to name a
few. .Usually lifters that work correctly when the oil temperature
is cool and collapse when the engine oil is hot is due to the oil
viscosity/valve spring pressure. In other words, the lifter pump
relief valve cannot overcome the valve spring pressure plus valve
train inertia pressures at high rpm.
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Smitty Says: Jim you mention contamination as one reason, and the most
likely contamination is air being whipped into the oil by all the violence going
on around the crankshaft. You can hardly expect a lifter that counts on the
non-compressability of oil to keep its zero lash adjustment, when the oil is
30% tiny air bubbles like a milk shake.
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