<VV> PG upshift issue

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James and others:
Just came in form the garage, I have been dreading this but I am SOOOOO HAPPPPY I went ahead shook off my lack of confidence and did this anyway. I removed the valve body from the transmission and methodically took it apart, just as the Shop Manual says. By the time I reached disassembly of the low drive regulator valve sleeve, sure as s**t I look down on my shop towel and here lies a broken e-clip. I not entirely sure where it was, I am assuming in on one the grooves somewhere. ANYWAY, I am stuck on step 7 page 7-35 of the 65 shop manual. I can't figure out how to remove that pin to the TV valve components and get that out of part off the valve body. Once I get that apart, I'll order my new parts and put everything back together.
Any more tips on reassembly would greatly be appreciated.

STOP. EVERYONE OF YOU GUYS ARE SO VERY COOL. FROM KENT DUNCAN IN TOPEKA WHO I CONVINCED TO BUY A PARTS CAR ON MY BEHALF TO JOHN WINGLE OF TAUNTON, MA WHO CALLED ME OUT OF THE BLUE IN OVER 20 YEARS TO HARRY YARNELL WHO SENT ME FREE SHROUDS, TO MATT NALL, JAMES DAVIS, SMITTY AND EVERYONE ELSE, THIS  CLUB  IS  AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU KIND CORVAIR GURU'S FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE AND KNOWLEDGE WEALTH!
I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW GRATIFYING IT IS TO SHARE, STRUGGLE AND CONQUER CHALLENGES THIS OLD CAR GIVES US.

-chris mann


--- On Mon, 8/11/08, James Davis <jld at wk.net> wrote:
From: James Davis <jld at wk.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> PG upshift issue
To: cfmann at yahoo.com
Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 11:15 PM

OK how about the 65 shop manual page 7-38 Fig 7-E11 (same exploded 
view) and page 7-31 for the tool use..  You can use the "E" clip from

a Hardware store or Lowes/Home Depot.  It is 5/16 of an inch and a 
pain to install down in that small compartment.  You will also need 
the two gaskets for the transfer plate and the valve body.  For some 
strange reason, Clark's sells an "E" clip replacement kit
consisting 
of everything you need.  I know as I always carry one in the 
UltraVan.  I have had chance to use it several times, though not on 
my UltraVan.

The "E" clip is usually broken when there is a vacuum leak to the 
modulator.  The lack of vacuum drives the transmission to full 
pressure and when coming to a stop the sudden full pressure on the 
valve brakes the "E" clip.
Jim Davis





At 03:16 PM 8/11/2008, you wrote:
>So this small spring I found might be the culprit. The e-clip as 
>described,is inside the valve, so that must mean I have to dig into 
>the tranny a little deeper to get to it.
>I am a lm kind of dude, I appreciate the fact that the 61 shop 
>manual has a better diagram, but as for now, I don't have possession 
>of one, I may be able to gain access to a borrowed version though.
>The "e"clip as prescribed in this situation is a typical hardware

>store part? And this spring I called out, I am nearly positive that 
>would be replaced as well, and likely a special part from one of our
vendors?
>James, you have beenvery helpful to date. I'll tell my best friend, 
>James Davis,(no foolin') that I met another James Davis through my 
>Corvair Hobby lol :-)
>as if there are other chris mann's out there! ha.
>-chris mann
>
>--- On Mon, 8/11/08, James Davis <jld at wk.net> wrote:
>From: James Davis <jld at wk.net>
>Subject: Re: <VV> PG upshift issue
>To: cfmann at yahoo.com
>Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:36 PM
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>
>The "E" clip won't fall out it is usually trapped in the
valve
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>passage. If you look on page 6E-9 of the 61 shop manual you will see
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>a exploded view of the valve body.  Item #25 is "E" clip.  Next
to it
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>is a small spring "the throttle valve spring".  That is probably
the
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>small spring you found.
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>The steps for the use of the J-8365 tool is described on page 6E-4.
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>of the 61 shop manual.  Why the 61 shop manual?  It is much better
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>than the 65 shop manual, more detail and it covers the FC's.
>
>Jim Davis
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>   At 11:41 AM 8/11/2008, you wrote:
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> >JD:
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> >I must apologize and back up a bit. I just walked out to the
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>  garage
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> >and studied the issue again. If I am following the shop manual
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> >right, it says place the drive selector in "D" and then go
ahead
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> >with the procedure of adjustment.
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> >I am studying how the linkage behaves, and as I see it, I cannot
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> >push the manual valve piston back because the drive selector cable
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> >(with the ball at the end of it) prevents it from doing so.
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> >I look at it and wonder if I should remove the drive selector cable
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> >(with the ball on the end of it) then see if the manual valve
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> >adjustment will work out. But I can also see how that would defeat the
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>purpose?
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> >And for all the searching inside the pan, I cannot see where an
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> >e-clip is to belong, nor had i found the remnants of an e-clip in the
pan.
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> >I did find a piece of a itsy bitty spring though, that's probably
bad.
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> >-chris mann
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> >
>
> >--- On Mon, 8/11/08, James Davis <jld at wk.net>
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>  wrote:
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> >From: James Davis <jld at wk.net>
>
> >Subject: Re: <VV> PG upshift issue
>
> >To: cfmann at yahoo.com
>
> >Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 4:00 PM
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> >
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> >
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> >Loosen the nut push the valve all the way back in the valve body,
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> >with the tang on the rod facing up tilt the rod up as far as possible
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> >
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> >to insert.  Slide the piston back hard against the tang and
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> >
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> >tighten.  If the transmission will move forward and reverse the
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> >
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> >problem is not with the shift valve, it is with the up-shift valve.
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> >
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> >Unless you change the transmission or the shift cable the shift valve
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> >
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> >is never a problem.  The most likely problem is a broken "E"
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> >
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> >clip.  See the Tech Guide for instructions on the repair.
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> >
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> >Jim Davis
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> >   At 08:53 AM 8/11/2008, you
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> >  wrote:
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>  >Hello all,
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> > >I posted this once just recently, didn't get as many replies
as I
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> >
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> > >had hoped so I'll try attempt again but boil it down
(previous was
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> >
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> > >lengthy, entitled Pg fixin').
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> >
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> > >I have been having issues with my 110/pg upshifting into second
gear.
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> >
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> > >I had checked to most basic things, like enough fluid, and maybe
a
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> >
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> > >clogged modulator vacuum line, excreta. Of which both checked out
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> >
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> > >OK. And the problem persisted.
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> >
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> > >Bought a new modulator, gaskets from one of our vendors, and
opened
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> >
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> > >the pan to check the manual valve adjustment (I bought the tool
too)
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> >
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> > >Instructions in shop manual clearly state to insert tool into
manual
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> >
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> > >valve bore and turn it so slightly to engage the channel that the
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> >
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> > >pin is to stop on.
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> > >I
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>  can't even get the tool into the hole because the manual valve
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> >
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> > >piston head prevents this from happening.
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> > >Should I loosen the lock nut at
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> >
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> >  this point and push the piston back?
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> > >-chris mann
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