<VV> gridlock, and religion in school, was: [VV-talk] political parties

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Ken,

What do you think the "checks and balances" system is? How about the
Senate's right of filibuster? No, the founding fathers intended for
disputes to tie up the government's lawmaking abilities. They well knew
that doing nothing was better than doing the wrong thing, which is why they
designed the system like they did. Like one of them once said, "heaven help
us when the legislature is in session." In Virginia where my brother lives,
the state legislature is strictly limited to a specific number of days. I
understand that the purpose of that is to limit the length of time the
citizenry is in danger of laws passed by the legislators. LOL

And for the record, the Supreme Court did NOT rule "Christian ethics out of
the government." Rather, they have ruled (many times) that government
should stay strictly out of religious activities. As one wag said "as long
as there are math tests in school, there will be prayers in school". It is
a falsehood that "prayer has been banned in school". One is (and always has
been) able to pray in school, PRIVATELY. The "banned from school" notion is
another one of those RRR "big lies". They have used that lie to whip
followers into a frenzy, when in fact the Supreme Court is merely doing
what the Constitution demands, preserving EVERYone's right to practice
religion in their own personal way.

And, let me add, it is the PARENT's responsibility to teach religious
values to their kids, NOT the school's. If it were the school's
responsibliity, who's version of "religious values" are you going to have
them teach? Certainly you wouldn't want them to teach anything contrary to
YOUR values, would you? So stop complaining when the Supreme Court protects
your right to your religious values.

-Mark


> [Original Message]
> Subject: Re: <VV> [VV-talk] political parties
>
> Sadly, there is some truth to that thought ... and we should all
> be ashamed.  The founding fathers had no such plan.  They 
> were wise enough to know times would change and the day 
> would come that Americans would have to take up their arms
> and replace the government they were creating.  They lived in
> a time when honor was paramount and the well being of the 
> country was foremost in their minds.  It was a time when once
> the elections were over they would unite for the good of all.
>
> They could not have for seen a time in which party policies would
> overshadow the nation ... they could not have for seen liberalism
> in the Supreme Court ruling Christian ethics out of the government.
> They could not have for seen foreign powers exerting control
> through lobbies.  After all, many of them had died to create
> a nation which would be 'of the people, by the people, and for
> the people.
>
> What would they think of us know?
> Ken P
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:55:06 EDT ScottyGrover at aol.com writes:
> >  
> > In a message dated 8/28/2008 1:24:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> > airvair at earthlink.net writes:
> > 
> > Considering the two parties today, the best we can hope for is  a
> > gridlocked, divided government. Just like our founding fathers had  
> > planned
> > upon.... (G)
> > 
> > -Mark
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!
> >  
> > Scotty from Hollyweird!
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