<VV> Bucking / Stalling diagnostics

[Dave Thompson]

It sounds very similar to the problem I had with my Spyder I traced it down
to a bad coil. It was a stock one on a pertronix ignition. Replaced the coil
with a flamethrower II and all is good.

When the engine quit, the coil was very hot. Eventually I tried a spark test
with the coil wire just after the engine quit and got hardly any spark.
Waited 10 minutes or so and tried again and got a good hot spark.

Try that.

Dave Thompson
63 Spyder Vert
Westminster, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Mackintosh [mailto:dougmackintosh at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:23 AM
To: Virtual Vairs
Subject: <VV> Bucking / Stalling diagnostics

OK all you diagnostics wizards, I need help!
 
My daughter's Spyder has an intermittant bucking / stalling problem. This
has been going on, but progressively getting worse, over the last few
months. In addition to the bucking / stalling it had difficulty revving over
4000 RPM and the tach needle would wiggle and drop when it was bucking. I
found a very sloppy distributor bushing and repaired that, which seems to
have cured those problems. The car ran like a champ after that for 2-3 days.
 
But last night we went for a Corvair cruise out on the back roads and after
about 30 minutes of spirited driving it started acting up. Here are the
symptoms:
 
- It starts and drives fine for a while
- It then starts to buck (jerk) intermittantly
- The bucking increases in frequency and severity
- It then stalls for a few seconds, then catches again and is OK
- The stalling recurs, increasing in frequency and lasting longer each time
- Eventually it stalls long enough that the car coasts to a stop. After
waiting a minute, it can be restarted and goes a short distance before it
happens again
- Last night, we stalled at a convenient place and I let it sit a few
minutes, then had Leigh crank it while I checked for spark (coil wire held
near ground) - nice fat spark (but it may have already cured itself from the
resting time). We restarted and drove (at a leisurely pace) about 10 minutes
back home.
 
>From the behavior I have seen I am suspicious that the problem is heat
related since it never stalls until we have been on the road awhile, and it
seems to cure itself by sitting briefly, and it seems the longer it sits,
the longer it stays "fixed". Also it seems to get progressively worse and
more frequent with driving time. The only other possibility I can think of
is a partially plugged gas cap vent making it "run out of gas".
 
I eagerly await your suggestions! When we get to the bottom of it, I will
post the results.
 
Thanks! 
 

-- Doug Mackintosh
Corsa member since 1996
Corsa/NC member since 1996, Virtual Vairs member
Corvair owner 1969-1971 and 1996-on


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