<VV> Fan Belt Toss
Wayne B.
afvair at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 4 14:30:50 EST 2008
Thanks Dave for the comments about the Toss on friday night. Makes me wish I could have been behind you with my top down too. I'm looking forward to your description of saturday and sunday. Keep the reports coming!
Thanks,
Wayne Broadhead
66 coupe
65 turbo vert, just back from the painter!
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> 1. Re: Road trip/.Street Race (Dave & Carole
> Thomson)
> 2. Re: [fastvair] Road trip/.Street Race (tim mahler)
> 3. The Great Western Fan belt toss, Part 1 (Dave
> Thompson)
> 4. Fwd: WD-40 (Ebarr19 at aol.com)
> 5. Presidential Cars, then and now (no corvair content)
> (steven at sashimi.org)
> 6. Re: Rochester Idle Circuit Inconsistencies (FrankCB)
> 7. Chevron Gas? Re: Rochester Idle Circuit
> Inconsistencies (FrankCB)
> 8. Re: Chevron Gas? Re: Rochester Idle Circuit
> Inconsistencies
> (Chris & Bill Strickland)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:23:35 -0700
> From: "Dave & Carole Thomson"
> <jdavethomson at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Road trip/.Street Race
> To: <levair at aol.com>,
> <fastvair at yahoogroups.com>,
> <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>, <Yenko108 at hotmail.com>,
> <Indyscca at egroups.com>,
> <Mcvair at sbcglobal.net>, <slevair at yahoo.com>
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>
> Warren, you have a way of writing that certainly grabs this
> "older [ie cheap
> insurance]" solo driver and makes me follow the words
> all the way to the
> last sentence.
> I have always loved competiing in solo/autocross and
> especially the
> adrenalin rush that it gives you. The sensation of being
> able to view the
> course as you drive and feel your reactions in "slow
> mo" while at speed is
> so amazing.
> For those who have hung on the steering wheel waiting for
> the car to come
> around as close to the pylon as possible and felt that
> rush, you certainly
> describe it in such a clear manner for us.
> I just hope that the younger crowd gets the same enthusiasm
> and desire to
> spend the time and dollars to compete. It brings so many
> rewards, not only
> in comraderie, but in driving skills that aid you in the
> real world.
>
> Thanks for all these great reports.
> Dave, Calgary 68 Kelmark V8Vair, 66 Corsa 140-4 Vert.
>
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> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:37 PM
> Subject: <VV> Road trip/.Street Race
>
>
> >
> >
> > We just got back to Indiana from our vacation trip
> to Florida to
> > vist Sharon's relatives and attend the St
> Augustine SECC/CFA autocross
> > event. It was beautiful weather in Florida, and of
> course exactly the
> > same in Indiana--go figure.
> >
> > This event just cannot be missed regardless of the
> weather. It is
> > close to the ocean and a breeze is always there, plus
> a short rain
> > shower every day after lunch, but immediately drying
> off.
> >
> > The course reminds me of a surburban housing
> development without
> > the houses. All of the appropriate green street signs
> are at the
> > intersections. All of the connecting grippy asphalt
> streets have
> > sweeping turns between the intersections. There is
> even a culda sac/
> > skid pad. The skid pad seems to be made of polished
> marble. One drop of
> > rain means instant spin out, which I unfortunately
> discovered to the
> > spectators and my passenger's delight. .
> > This site must be used for police pursuit training.
> > I brought the SCCA specific EM Corvair roadster
> primarily for the
> > easier/cheaper towing, but the great break in the
> fuel prices made
> > that moot. Next year at the Convention I intend to
> bring the Corvair
> > event specific Stinger; unless of course the fuel is
> $4.00 again.
> >
> > Fast Edie Meadows (one of the fast guys who
> didn't bring a car)
> > designed 3 great flowing courses. One for the Sat.
> morn Test and tune,
> > a tighter one for the Sat. afternoon timed runs
> (with the slick skid
> > pad) and a really fast one for Sunday morning that
> was .9 miles long.
> > On Sunday, I was able to use third gear all of the way
> around even
> > through the alternate choice lane changes and the
> slaloms on the
> > straight to slow the straights down. Even so I was
> able to red line in
> > 3rd gear at the end of both straights (3.27/std.
> Saginaw).
> > The only other pylons were to block off unused
> routes. No one got
> > lost and only about 6 pylons were hit the entire
> weekend.
> > This was in effect a small road course visible by
> all spectators
> > ala the Marshall Town small track.
> > A neat feature was the use of two competeting club
> cars from rival
> > Corvair clubs. Each had at least 6 drivers.
> > the scores were to be averaged and a club winner
> announced. Each car
> > was TOTALLY stock---something you never see in SCCA.
> Stock tires,
> > shock, carbs, antiroll bars, etc. Plus all of the
> parts were about 45
> > years old-contributing to some strange handling.
> > I was asked to drive both with one lap practice lap
> to set some
> > handicap guide lines. The both handled like early
> models (see previous
> > paragraph-last sentence) and the time difference was
> negligible. It
> > was great fun and certainly de ja vu for me. You
> certainly have to
> > think ahead.
> > I was able to win because all of the super fast
> guys that I invited
> > to run didn't show---you know who you are. Club
> president, Tim Mahler
> > drove VERY well and might have won on the PAX if we
> had one.
> > I recommend the Sunday course for the Convention,
> what ever that is
> > worth. I'm speed addicted.
> > It was a great vacation in all respects. I really
> enjoyed the super
> > friendly Corvair family. We even had free Sub
> sandwiches for lunch. We
> > had lots of fun runs with passenger/victims.
> > Some one elese will have to post the winning cars
> and times.
> > It's your loss if you miss this event in 09.
> > We also had a great tour of Vintage downtown St.
> Augustine and a
> > supper at a fine Italian restruant there with
> friends. .
> > It's too bad that you can't do it all; I
> understand that I missed a
> > great event at Indy also.
> >
> > Warren
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:41:30 -0600
> From: "tim mahler" <flat6vair at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> [fastvair] Road trip/.Street Race
> To:
> <fastvair at yahoogroups.com>, <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
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> Nice report Warren. I, too, had a great time on the
> streets of north florida (those in the test facility, that
> is).
>
> The Florida corvair enthusiasts were great hosts, and Fast
> Eddy laid out some nice courses to run. The trip was
> definitiely worth it, especially since the fuel costs were
> significantly lower than expected. The event reminded me a
> lot of the Iowa Fire and Ice events, laid back, lots of
> friends, friendly postering, battles within the battles.
>
> Contrary to Warren, though, I preferred the Saturday
> course... OK , I ran better saturday than sunday. But
> the 3 or 4 switch backs in the center of the course were a
> blast. It took me awhile to do all the parts of that course
> right on the same run. I got to about 2.7 seconds of
> Warrens EM car. Being that close to the Master was a good
> feeling. The Sunday course reminded me the most of the
> Iowa track. Simple to follow with plenty of turns to keep
> you interested. I was much closer before the rain. That
> gave Warren time to regroup, adjust his car, get teh right
> ballast (passenger) etc to really bury me time wise.
> I'll make more adjusted, and practice some more for
> next time.
>
> The Sunday course, I had to make up excuses, none were
> valid except the one where I lacked the ba**** , er,
> bravery, to make the left turn after the straight. My times
> definitely showed it -- as compared to the master. The
> left reminded me a bit of the left at gateway after the
> straightaway. Hang on, and turn. I just couldn't
> get myself to do it. Warren, and a few others, did. I
> needed 3 or 4 more runs to get that corner right.
>
> Oh. using the SCCA pax i still lost to master Warren by
> half a second. May be time to get the car down to SCCA CP
> minimum, wider tires, more HP, then maybe? Looking
> forward to 2009.
>
> tim mahler
> #3 goodwrench
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:01:40 -0800
> From: "Dave Thompson"
> <dave.thompson at verizon.net>
> Subject: <VV> The Great Western Fan belt toss, Part 1
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Cc: Adam Larson <larsonx at roadrunner.com>,
> martha.wightman at globalknowledge.com, James Krisch
> <jamesk at pacificambulance.com>, Katie Krisch
> <kkrisch245 at hotmail.com>,
> Dick & Peggy Noblett <nobieone at gte.net>, George
> Harvey
> <gwh763 at yahoo.com>, Robin Cuyler
> <robin.cuyler at telus.net>, "M. B.
> Coyner" <tcrate38 at verizon.net>, fred mycroft
> <f356m at yahoo.com>, "James
> A. Thompson" <jathomps at spt.com>, AL THOMPSON
> <alnrose at verizon.net>,
> Rod Murray <rmurray at anaheimducks.com>, Michele
> Genovese
> <trijetgirl at yahoo.com>, lee Bird
> <irlong at aol.com>, mary stewart
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> Message-ID: <003801c93e53$925d3740$0201a8c0 at littleHP>
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>
> Well, let me tell you about the 'Toss from my point of
> view.
>
>
>
> Friday night, I showed up at the Orange county Fair Grounds
> parking lot at
> 6:00. I wanted to be early. I met Derek Harmsen, our Vice
> President. We
> waited around and eventually we had nine or so assorted
> Corvairs along with
> a half dozen other vehicles. (I never counted the cars
> throughout the
> weekend) I led the cruise promptly at 7:00pm. The cruise
> was fun until we
> approached Main Street Huntington Beach, the goal of the
> cruise. We found
> that it had been closed off for a Halloween festival they
> were having. Not
> to let that mess up our good time, I turned down the next
> street and then
> South on Pacific Coast Highway (PCH). The weather was
> spectacular! There was
> a full moon, about 65 degrees and slightly overcast. The
> clouds gently moved
> across the sky, sometimes obscuring the moon for a moment;
> a beautiful
> Halloween night. I had the top down and that last leg was
> one of my most
> memorable times driving my little spyder. At one point, I
> decided to jump on
> it to show my passengers how the boost gauge worked, by
> request, of course.
> The red Corsa behind me and two other Corvairs quickly took
> my lead and we
> all enjoyed the 3-mile straight away, screaming down PCH
> with the full moon
> glissading across the pacific and the cool wind in our
> hair.
>
>
>
> Eventually, we arrived at Newport Dunes. It is a small
> sandy beached lagoon
> in the back of Newport Bay. At one end they have a very
> nice RV campground.
> I have stayed there many times but that's another
> story. On the other side
> there are a few gazebos and fire rings. Two of the rings
> had roaring fires
> and there was a table full of hot dogs and other assorted
> goodies under a
> gazebo, setup and provided by some of our Vintage Corsa
> members. I
> especially liked the chili! We all cooked our dogs, ate
> goodies and
> socialized. Fun was had by all.
>
>
>
> Saturday Morning, I arrived at the fairgrounds at 5:15am.
>
>
>
> It's 11:55 on Monday Night, I've got a big day at
> work so I'll give you part
> two tomorrow night.
>
>
>
> Dave Thompson
>
> 63 Spyder Vert
>
> Westminster, CA
>
> Vintage Corsa member
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:56:56 EST
> From: Ebarr19 at aol.com
> Subject: <VV> Fwd: WD-40
> To: SECC at corvair.org, virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <d5e.39cd9af4.3641aea8 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I think this has been posted before, but is worth a re-run
> !
> Gene
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:11:02 -0500
> From: "steven at sashimi.org"
> <steven at sashimi.org>
> Subject: <VV> Presidential Cars, then and now (no
> corvair content)
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID:
> <380-22008112415112483 at M2W042.mail2web.com>
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>
> For your election day entertainment, from the LA Times, is
> this nice
> pictorial article highlighting Presidential rides over the
> years. Alas, no
> Corvairs noted among them...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5cdjrn
>
> - Steve Brown
>
> '62 Rampside
> '69 Monza convertible 140/PG
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:04:40 -0500
> From: FrankCB <frankcb at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Rochester Idle Circuit
> Inconsistencies
> To: "Shaun McGarvey"
> <shaun_mcgarvey at shaw.ca>, Mikeamauro
> <Mikeamauro at aol.com>, virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID:
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> Shaun,
> Your "Methyl hydrate" is more commonly
> called methyl alcohol or methanol and is the main ingredient
> of the common "Dry Gas". However it is more
> corrosive and has less water absorption capability compared
> to isopropyl alcohol (isopropanol). This is sold as
> "Iso-Dri" in some areas. Just read the label to
> see that it contains isopropyl alcohol instead of methyl
> alcohol.
> Frank "chemically speaking" Burkhard
>
> In a message dated 11/03/08 19:16:28 Eastern Standard Time,
> shaun_mcgarvey at shaw.ca writes:
> Methyl Hydrate in the gas tank will help if it's water.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:08:29 -0500
> From: FrankCB <frankcb at aol.com>
> Subject: <VV> Chevron Gas? Re: Rochester Idle
> Circuit Inconsistencies
> To: "Chris & Bill Strickland"
> <lechevrier at earthlink.net>,
> virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID:
> <e21060c2.434d.43dc.879a.7eac5ee6cb8f at aol.com>
> Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Bill,
> Well, Chevron gas is not that readily available where
> I live and is usually more expensive than Sunoco which is
> what I usually use.
> Frank Burkhard
>
> In a message dated 11/03/08 14:15:31 Eastern Standard Time,
> lechevrier at earthlink.net writes:
> Frank wrote:
>
> >I've gotten the same recommendation to use
> Chevron's Techron from two knowledgeable and objective
> (meaning from people who are NOT trying to sell me anything)
> sources, so I agree. I've started using it on all my
> cars.
> >
>
> Wouldn't it just be simpler to buy Chevron gas for your
> Chevrolet? (I
> sorta like "Chev" - note: Le Chevrier ...)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:54:08 -0800
> From: Chris & Bill Strickland
> <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Chevron Gas? Re: Rochester Idle
> Circuit
> Inconsistencies
> To: FrankCB <frankcb at aol.com>
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <49107E30.6050805 at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
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> FrankCB wrote:
>
> > ... is usually more expensive than Sunoco which is
> what I usually use.
>
> Is that before, or after you add the bottled Techron?
> Isn't that stuff
> about ten bucks a bottle?
>
> Sounds like you do have a Chevron or two to compare prices
> with though
> -- no Sunoco in Oregon that I'm aware of, and if there
> is, they probably
> get product from whomever will supply them 'cause
> I'm sure they don't
> ship it in from the mid-west.
>
> Bill Strickland
>
>
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