<VV> [fastvair] Re: Communique, Print vs. Electronic or Both Suggestion / comment

Thu Dec 10 11:31:39 EST 2009

Your absolutely 100% right on Warren, I enjoy looking back at my older Communique Issues also, brings back alot of great memories. 
This electronic messaging is just that messaging, no depth, its destroying the newspaper and magazine market. 

Our local SCCA Group had a nice newsletter, of course the young guys dumped it, went online for everything and the results show 
there lax efforts also. Now its a forum for rice burner types. 

Look at the change we got in Washington, thats REALLY WORKING... 

Dan Giannotti 

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Subject: [fastvair] Re: <VV> Communique, Print vs. Electronic or Both Suggestion / comment 

The SCCA has a program where you pay extra to get some previous paper 
items like Fasttrack for an additional amount of money. Our Indy SCCA 
group has as an opt in or opt out program for paper newsletters; I out 
in and pay the extra., 
Another SCCA group has discontinued their paper newsletter 
altogether and has seen attendance fall from 80 cars to 30 cars. When 
interviewed the attandants all came because of the Web news . That 
works good for the hard core dedicated who enjoy searching the web for 
events . The 50 missing casual entrants needed reminding by a mailed 
newsletter in their laps (rather like a special invitation) . 
The FortWayne SCCA has gone to a sparodic on line newsletter and 
the club has almost dissolved. 
Recently I felt the need to research some past Corvair items and 
was able to look through both some 30 year old Communiques and some 
very recent ones---it warmed my heart. This years Communique 
has been great; especially the early foundry and casting articles. 
A few years ago I saved some information on floppy disc. Now that 
then current techonology is obsolete and not available on new 
computers. When is our current technology going to become obsolete? 
Nothing is forever EXCEPT PAPER. 
There is some arrogance of youth about only the latest (soon to be 
obsolete) technology to be of any value. Why do they automatically 
assue that we codgers know nothing about it? Surely we old codgers have 
some special value about being to see the big picture fromn a greater 
distance, rather than now is always better, just because it is newer. I 
just received some interesting postal mail and pictures form a Corsa 
menber 
who obviously has no computer. I consider it special because of the 
extra effort--sort of like hand written Christmas cards. 
In my musical field, I have the latest electronic storage device to 
play sheet music from. When it is obsolete, I will get the next newest 
one. It is a great tool and I respect it. It is ONLY a tool and being 
electronic ,it will eventually fail unexpectedly(like all of the 
electronic ignitions this summer-or viruses in computers). However I 
will still have my PAPER sheet music forever. 
Just give me the choice and let me make my own decision on paper or 
web. 

Warren 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Louis Armer <carmerjr at mindspring.com> 
To: Corvkid50 at aol.com 
Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org 
Sent: Thu, Dec 10, 2009 12:59 am 
Subject: <VV> Communique, Print vs. Electronic or Both Suggestion / 
comment 

Okay Ron, "ANYONE" Armer here with a possible solution. First: annual 
dues remain the same for everyone regardless of whether they receive 
a printed monthly copy of the Communique, an electronic version or 
both. Second: Individuals may only change this option within a 30 day 
period of their annual CORSA dues renewal. Lastly: The printed 
quantity of the Communique remain the same for 24 printed issues 
while this option possibility is given a reasonable trial period. If 
your assumption is correct then CORSA would 
reap significant savings in postal expenses by the % of members like 
yourself who would be satisfied with only an electronic email 
delivery of their Communique. You along with many on the V V list 
have expressed a willingness to forego their printed Communique and 
YES if enough members would indeed chose this option then the mailing 
expenses would be greatly reduced and WE, CORSA 
would cut costs an area where members can individually help the greater 
cause. 

Chuck Armer 
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At 10:26 PM 12/9/2009, you wrote: 
>I guess I don't see why people can't see the problem. If I am correct 
>CORSA spends $125,000 a year on the Communique. It's their biggest 
expense. 
>Raising dues every yr is a temporary fix for a permanent problem. 
>I would like 
>to see what the difference in expenses would be if it was sent e-mail 
to 
>those who wanted it sent that way. I'm sure someone has the survey 
numbers to 
> see what that would be. The money saved could go to promotion of 
CORSA. No 
>money no promotion, at least they could control the expense column 
then 
>and balance things. ANYONE? 
>Ron Thompson 
>Wisc 
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