<VV> installing a dual MC in '65
Frank DuVal
corvairduval at cox.net
Thu May 28 21:12:55 EDT 2009
Seth,
Here in the rusty east it is very foolish and dangerous to reuse steel
brake lines. The brass fitings are OK, but please, do not reuse the
steel. And now that our cars are 40 years+, also do not reuse the rubber
lines. They can fail internally and cause brake lockup.
John,
As Lon said, dual MC drum brakes systems like Corvairs did not use a
proportioning valve. It is a pressure switch to light the light when one
circuit fails.
I have installed several Dual MC kits from our vendors in 62 to 66 cars
with no problems. There is no switch block or pressure valves in the
kits. I have not checked into the Multi Kit, even though I usually
replace everything (springs, hardware, wheel cylinders, etc) when doing
a brake overhaul. Safety first said the guy who has had brake failure on
the road. BTDT, let's not repeat.
Frank DuVal
Sethracer at aol.com wrote:
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>In a message dated 5/28/2009 11:06:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>keith.hammett at stainlessfab.com writes:
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>Since the convert is totally apart and at the painter, I started my list
>of what I would need to get her back together. On the list is brakes, I
>would like to go to a dual MC. Since I will be putting in new brake
>lines what is the difference between a single mc LM and a dual mc LM?
>How are lines routed for the dual MC. Am I better off to buy the dual
>MC conversion from Clark's or buy the Multikit for a '67 to '69 that
>includes the dual MC?
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>The 65 Corvair is different than the 66 Corvair. The line to the rear
>brakes is smaller in 65. I am sure the clarks kit allows for this difference. I
>have converted a few ones with 67-69 parts. The 65 requires a slightly
>different fitting (feeding the rears) at the firewall because of the line size
>difference, unless you swap in a 66-69 line set. The fitting at the back of
>the 65 is also smaller to mate with the smaller line to the front. If you
>can find a good used master cylinder to rebuild, and feel comfortable about
>doing it, you will have one advantage. The stock masters have little
>pressure valves in the outlet ports to maintain a small pressure in the line.
>Most of the new, replacements do not. Sometimes they get removed during a
>rebuild as well. This is not a deal breaker, but I thought you might want to
>know. If the car is a stockish, street-driven car, you won't need any
>balance valve. The Corvair brakes are balanced front to rear by their widths, and
>the weight distribution of the Corvair doesn't really get too upset under
>braking, unlike almost all front engined cars. If you find someone parting
>a 67-69, try to get all the fittings and lines as a complete set. If you
>want a new master, try to get one that is an exact match for the stocker.
>(line fittings on the correct side, etc.)
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>Seth Emerson
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