<VV> Axle clearance

Thu Nov 26 19:55:40 EST 2009

Too each his own I guess, I'd rather look at a 64 Wagon than any Sedan, yuk.

Joe

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Subject: Re: <VV> Axle clearance

That's all well and good in a custom. But if I didn't make it so that people
would say "I KNOW it's a custom car, but it looks SO stock" then it would be
pointless.

The whole idea of making a LM wagon is to present that "what if"
possibility. Unlike Smitty's so-called "1964 wagon", which is festooned like
a circus wagon, and looks every bit like a custom car. In trying to present
it as a '64 wagon, its custom work makes it pointless. Sorry Smitty - just
my opinion..... ;o)

-Mark

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Subject: Re: Axle clearance

Keep in mind, if you build one, you don't have to follow the original form
factor. If you want to make it lower and wider, go for it. If you want to
use something other than a Corvair blower, go for it. If you want to put the
blower up front and draw the air through, why not? Think outside the box, as
it were. <G>

John Roberts

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Subject: Re: <VV> Axle clearance

As I said, an interesing idea. But given that when you sit down, the rear
cushion is compressed into that area, I would think that you may not have as
much room as you'd think. You may have to raise the rear cushion.

Coinsidentally, it has been suggested (several times, mind you) that I
should put a VistaCruiser roof on it. Olds and Buick wagons so equipped
actually raised the rear seat cushion, so the rear passengers didn't really
have any more headroom than without the glass-top. That would allow a raised
rear seat and more room for the heater box, but I feel that the overall idea
would be too much over the top, and besides, Chevy never bought into the
VisaCruiser roof anyway.

-Mark

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Subject: Re: Axle clearance

Given that, and given how simple the heater box is, and is to make, I'd
still go for moving out of that area entirely. Hence the under the seat
suggestion, since that's where the duct to the front is anyway!

John Roberts

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Subject: Re: <VV> Axle clearance

On the a/c core, the EM wagon ('61 Lakewood & '62 wagon) didn't have a/c
available, simple as that. Those brave soles (like lclc) that HAVE put a/c
into a wagon usually did the trunk thing....

As far as the heater box goes, the factory squashed it down to as low as
possible, and combined with the needed clearance over the engine air
cleaners, still ended up with a fairly high load floor. But the heater box
was STILL over the axle area. On my wagon, using the same height over the
air cleaners as on the EM wagon puts it at mid-taillight height (which is
why the EM wagons have the taillights where they do.) I'm having to do
something different there.

I figure that the heater box and the air cleaner clearances are going to be
my two determining factors as to where (height-wise) the load floor gets
located. I have "secret" plans that allow keeping the stock rear cove
appearance.

-Mark

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Subject: Re: Axle clearance, was: 1960 authenticity

Well, how did the Lakewood do it?

John Roberts

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Subject: Re: <VV> Axle clearance, was: 1960 authenticity

Interesting idea, But just trying to use as much "stock" parts as possible.
The 

idea is to keep the car as close to a "production" possibility as is
practical. 

On the flip side, though, am having to relocate the a/c condensor into the
front 

trunk. I plan on keeping the stock spare location (with a 14" rim though)
AND 

putting the condensor w/fans under a false floor, AND keeping the front
panel as 

free of holes as possible. I have it all figured out, just have to see if it

comes together as planned when it's "in the flesh."

Now if I REALLY wanted to do a "custom", I'd drop the front edge of the
trunk 

opening (between the headlights) to just above the front bumper, while
keeping 

the look stock. Now THAT would be trick!

-Mark

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Subject: Re: Axle clearance, was: 1960 authenticity

No idea about the clearance, but any reason a heater box couldn't be fabbed
up 

and mounted under the rear seat, eliminating that area all together?

John Roberts

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Subject: <VV> Axle clearance, was: 1960 authenticity

On a related subject, one on which I have yet to physically reach, is just

how much clearance is there in a LM between the heater box and transaxle?

The reason I ask is in preparation for my LM wagon project to go to the

body shop. Would like to have some idea as to how much I could possibly

drop the heater box and still clear everything. A general estimate would

aid me in planning just how far to try to drop it before the actual

construction/cutting begins. Anybody have an idea as to the potential

available clearance?

-Mark

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> From: <HallGrenn at aol.com>

> Subject: Re: <VV> 1960 authenticity

>  

> In a message dated 11/26/2009 12:11:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,  

> tony.underwood at cox.net writes:

>

> The '60  package area is deeper.

>

> Thanks Tony.  That's one I hadn't heard of.  I knew about starter  

> clearance problems before, but now I know why.

>  

> Bob Hall

>

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