<VV> now air filters - no vair

[J R Read_HML]

Can an air filter get dirty enough to trip the "service engine" light?

Sniffer test does not apply (in IL anyway) beginning 1996 model year.  They 
just plug in the computer now.

Later, JR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kaczmarek at charter.net>
To: "The Robbins" <therobbins82 at gmail.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> oil filters now air filters


> Joe
> I've seen cars fail the sniffer test with a dirty air filter, changed the 
> filter and all was well.   ??
>
> Hank
> ---- The Robbins <therobbins82 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> No Corvair content but to further throw dirt into the air, I read in 
>> Consumer reports that changing air filters at regular intervals doesn't 
>> really help fuel mileage since the computer takes the available air and 
>> mixes it with fuel like nothing is wrong. Glad I read this AFTER I put 
>> the K&N lifetime filter on my Suburban. FWIW.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org 
>> [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of 
>> kaczmarek at charter.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 12:37 PM
>> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org; Geoffrey Stozek
>> Subject: Re: <VV> oil filters
>>
>> I made up a display in the Western Auto Store in Charlotte where I was a 
>> Manager.
>>
>> I used 3 filters on my 87 Grand Marquis (5.0)  The Motorcraft, the Fram 
>> and the K&N performance filter.  I ran each 3000 miles, then let them 
>> drain out and cut the metal off at the sealing lip with a cut-off tool.
>>
>> The K&N looked best. Trapped dirt, and the filter element still was in 
>> good shape.
>>
>> Motorcraft was 2nd---did well, but the filter element didn't hold up very 
>> well.
>>
>> Fram---looked like a roll of toilet paper immersed in oil.
>>
>> When the Fram filters with the PTFE additive in the filter came out, 
>> after talking to a Wix rep at the Charlotte Autofair, I cut open a new 
>> one.  There was a small square of cardboard on top of the filter paper. 
>> The Wix guys told me they sprayed PTFE on the cardboard and put it into 
>> the filter housing.  And charged about 5.00 more for it.
>>
>> End of the day---My opinion only ----When you buy a Fram, you're paying 
>> for the name, not the quality of the filter.  Air filters---If the price 
>> is right.  Oil Filters, NEVER.
>>
>> Hank
>>
>> ---- Geoffrey Stozek <gjjs at att.net> wrote:
>> > VV members have been consistent on bashing Fram and praising WIX.   Is 
>> > there any test data from a reputable source to support these opinions? 
>> > I've used Fram in  most of my cars for decades without problem.   I 
>> > have an 87 GMC Safari with about 190,000 miles.   Does not use oil and 
>> > stays clean beyond 3,000 miles.   My experience with Fram is positive.
>> > Also, I'd like to hear VV thoughts on the oil filter adapter made for 
>> > corvairs that allows more common and less expensive filters to be used.
>> > Jeff Stozek
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