<VV> On promoting CORSA

Mon Sep 7 13:32:56 EDT 2009

Wow, I must really need to learn to communicate better. 

On one side Im being told I want to much change on the other I'm being told I have a glass half empty doomsday outlook. 

All to weird for me to handle. Must be a lack of a threaded conversations and replies coming in out of order. 

Jay already have a '64 vert. Went shopping with a current/former VV member. But a VV member does not mean a Corsa member (though I believe they were). 

I don't know for a fact if Corsa is growing or shrinking. From what I have read it sounds like shrinking and lots of people are not happy. Im still trying to learn and understand the point of Corsa and what people want / expect from it vs what they are getting. And adding my own insights in what I see. 

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Jay Pitchford <jay.pitchford at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jay Pitchford <jay.pitchford at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> On promoting CORSA
To: "Dave Hammelef" <davhammcar at yahoo.com>
Cc: VirtualVairs at corvair.org
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:56 AM

Alas, it's a fruitless endeavor for any of us to argue with a man who is determined to see the glass as half empty. Please feel free to define me as living proof of your CORSA doom/death/despair theory of the day. Irrespective, I will remain the tank-half-full Pollyanna I've always been.

Perhaps a ride in a convertible will give you a sunnier disposition? I will volunteer my passenger seat when I buy mine, probably in the next few weeks.
Cheers! - jcp

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Dave Hammelef <davhammcar at yahoo.com> wrote:

Jay,

Interestingly you have made these contacts without joining Corsa. I have not yet made one contact through Corsa. I have had contact with probably a few hundered or more Corvair owners. Even had one go with me to look at a car several years ago (thanks Norm if your still on here).

So if this biggest thing to get out of Corsa is contacts I would say the model does not work. And you are living proof. Of course saying its about insurance or a magazine probably are not it either. I think Corsa needs to be lots of things to lots of people, and from the sounds of it right now it is one or two things to a very few people.

Dave

--- On Sun, 9/6/09, Jay Pitchford <jay.pitchford at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jay Pitchford <jay.pitchford at gmail.com>

Subject: Re: <VV> On promoting CORSA

To: virtualvairs at corvair.org

Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 3:02 PM

Please allow a prospective CORSA member to weigh in here for a moment. Mark

has a valid point. I joined the virtual vairs forum just last night because,

after shopping for months for a Corvair convertible, I came to the

conclusion that the ONLY way to make an informed decision about buying a

Corvair was to rely on the expertise of the CORSA network.

What did that decision net me? In less than 24 hours, I've heard from 8-10

members via email and one by telephone. I have discussed and been sent

pictures of 5-6 convertible candidates. I have been offered advice, gotten a

second independent opinion on one that I'm seriously considering, and been

given plenty of help and encouragement. This is a fine group of people, and

anyone that's interested in becoming a Corvair owner would be foolish not to

join CORSA for the contacts and deep, deep knowledge of the cars.

Whether I ever get mailed a t-shirt or not, joining CORSA will be my first

official act after getting the title to my Corvair in hand.

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:48 PM, airvair at earthlink.net <airvair at earthlink.net

> wrote:

> All,

>

> While insurance and the Corsa Communique are important parts, I feel that

> the most valuable asset CORSA makes possible are the CONTACTS. I tell

> prospective members that the most valuable thing they get from a national

> club are the contacts, contacts that you can only make through membership

> in the car's marque club. Even if they aren't interested in the "social"

> part of a car club, I point out that those contacts will make everything

> easier, less expensive, and ultimately more enjoyable about owning the car.

> This cannot be emphasized enough!

>

> Maybe the national office doesn't exactly roll out a red carpet for new

> members. But I know my local club members in Friends of Corvair do. Such

> contacts are only limited to how willing the newbie is to make friends with

> others, and to ask questions and put his/her needs out to others. That's

> the key in making CORSA membership grow. Emphasize CONTACTS.

>

> -Mark

>

>

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