<VV> protecting Corvair worth, was: arrogance WAS tele column (Humor)

shortle shortle556 at earthlink.net
Thu Feb 25 11:32:35 EST 2010


Joe, I'll take it. But I got called away this morning to Nigeria so I'll send you a check for $50000 USD. Please send me the balance back. Thanks.
TS in Nigeria

-----Original Message-----
>From: The Robbins <therobbins82 at gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 25, 2010 7:51 AM
>To: 'Virtual Vairs' <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Subject: Re: <VV> protecting Corvair worth, was:  arrogance WAS tele column
>
>I'll step up to the plate and help set a new standard. I will take $25K for
>my 65 ragtop, that's a start, less than half of a 65 Vette. I'll take
>cashiers check or Pay Pal, you pick up.
>
>Joe R
>BBRT
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
>[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of airvair at earthlink.net
>Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 7:25 AM
>To: Virtual Vairs
>Subject: <VV> protecting Corvair worth, was: arrogance WAS tele column
>
>People here on VV have on occasion questioned the value of belonging to
>CORSA. If anything, this should give them an idea. The value of a strong
>marque club goes a long way in promoting and preserving the value of any
>marque. Illustrate the point by what one person once said about F**ds -
>that the only reason they were worth as much as they are is because there's
>a strong (inter)national F**d club behind them. Truth is, your membership
>in CORSA has many more unseen benefits than you realize, such as preserving
>and promoting the value of your Corvair. People just don't think about (or
>even realize) that.
> 
>Heck, just the value of a standard set of national concours rules is
>reflected in the market value of our Corvairs. It is why I pushed for them
>back in the early '70's, and ended up writing them myself! So to further
>advance the cause, and to put us closer to a "Bloomington Gold" standard
>for Corvairs, is the work that the Stock Corvair Group is trying to
>accomplish. Anyone who values their Corvair should be just as actively
>supporting the SCG's efforts.
> 
>True, I don't expect Corvairs to ever reach the values of Corvettes. But we
>have no one to blame but ourselves for its languishing values. Establishing
>a "Bloomington Gold" standard for Corvairs will be a giant step in that
>process. Protecting Corvair parts from scavengers is another. Even fending
>off continued attempts by the media to incessantly link Corvairs with
>Ralphie is still another. And we all must work on it, in whatever ways we
>can.
> 
>I'm doing what I can. Are you?
> 
>-Mark
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: kenpepke at juno.com <kenpepke at juno.com>
>> Subject: Re: <VV> arrogance WAS tele column
>>
>> Mark has always stood by his own feelings and has also always
>acknowledged the right of others to have their feelings. All is well with
>that but, there can come a time which one becomes arrogant in their
>judgment of the arrogance of others.
>>
>> Past experience tells me Corvette guys and gals are generally 'old car
>people' just the same as Corvair fans. Most have an interest in Corvairs
>and many have a Corvair. And there are quite a few Corvair owners that have
>a Corvette as their second car! Corvette people value parts and pieces so
>they swap and sell just like the rest of us if there is a market for their
>items.
>>
>> Both Corvettes and Corvairs come from pretty humble beginnings even
>though early Corvairs certainly did better in the market place than did the
>Corvette. They are both unique vehicles and I do not believe anyone would
>deny Corvair is even more unique than Corvette. Some would even claim,
>because of passenger space, Corvairs are more family friendly. Corvettes
>did cost more new and they do cost a lot more to restore BUT they are worth
>a whole lot more once done. Spending more for parts can now be seen as good
>business sense. 
>>
>> The question then becomes WHY so much difference in value?
>>
>> The national organizations of Corvette groups has to be a major factor.
>Back in the day when these organizations were founded a concerted effort
>was made to create judging procedures and establish judging awards which
>provided certificates of authenticity. It took a great deal of study and
>record keeping to establish those high standards with which Corvettes are
>judged ... Today a Bloomington Gold Award or an NCRS Flight award provide a
>prominence which adds to the real market value ... and saleability ... of
>the vehicle.
>>
>> Corvair, without the benefit of such an organization and with no
>universally recognizable national awards, lag behind in market values. That
>can be OK because it allows the vehicles to be available to more people. On
>the other side of the coin, it also makes less business sense to invest in
>a really proper restoration even though today, through the efforts of Mark
>Elis, Dave Newell, and others much more information is available. 
>> Ken P
>>
>>
>> *******************************
>>
>> airvair at earthlink.net wrote: [in part]
>>
>> Second, what's worse is that many Corvette people disassemble them, use
>> only the parts they want, and then THROW AWAY THE REST. This has caused
>not
>> only the entire assembly market to dry up, but also made any
>> repair/replacement parts impossible to find. This has proven particularly
>> devastating for finding any late style parts to repair or upgrade existing
>> cars, and particularly concours-intended cars ...
>>
>> ... As I've said for years, many Corvette people have more money
>> than brains. That fact makes them arrogant. They feel that they have an
>> absolute right to own anything they want. All they have to do is simply
>> keep bidding up the price until their opposition/competitor runs out of
>> money. And it's that arrogance that offends me the most.
>>
>> I've also often said that Corvettes are too rich for my blood. So I
>> appologize to everyone for not being wealthy enough to outbid Corvette
>> people on some things. I accept that this is a free market economy. So be
>> it. But I won't appologize for resenting their arrogance, or their
>> callousness and disregard for Corvair history. And my Corvair hobby.
>>
>> -Mark
>>
> 
>
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