<VV> Oh say can you see, was: Modern Corvair vs. mundane FWDs

[aeroned at aol.com]

The reason NO car is a hardtop today is the roll over regulations imposed  
on the car industry by the US government. The convertibles have roll bars, 
some  unobtrusive and others not so much. Have you seen a PT Cruiser 'vert?
 
Ned
 
 
In a message dated 1/19/2010 12:29:02 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
airvair at earthlink.net writes:

I wonder  if they would do a "retro" Corvair the same way they did the new
"retro"  Camaro. It's got a great modern "retro" revision of the '69 Camaro,
but  it's a sedan. The original was a hardtop. Fact is, that is my  biggest
complaint about it, the Challenger, and even the Mustang. They're  ALL
sedans, not hardtops. The LM Corvairs were beautiful as hardtops, and  to
make them into sedans would ruin them.

What's worse is  illustrated by the quarter windows in the Camaro. Just look
at how much of  the glass is blacked out, and what's behind all that black.
On the inside  you have a humoungous plastic trim panel that no doubt hides
a lot of  steel. My question is why? Especially since per square inch, glass
is  heavier than steel, so you'd think that the weight-savers would be  
going
ballistic over putting glass over steel and hiding it with black  paint on
the glass and a trim panel on the inside.

The result is  that the outward vision is horrible. From the driver's seat,
the right  quarter window looks like a postage stamp, while you can't even
see out the  left quarter window. The blind spots are the size of semi
trucks. I am  imagining a lot of new Camaros are going to end up with rear
end damage  from people backing into things.

That's the one thing the Corvair was  always praised for, its outward view.
Especially the LM 2door hardtop had  great visibility. No "B" pillar, and
thin "C" pillars. If a Corvair were  done today, would it suffer the same
fate as the Camaro? Would you end up  with a 2door sedan with horrible
rearward  vision?

-Mark


> [Original Message]
> From: Charles  Lee <Chaz at ProperProPer.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Modern  Corvair vs. mundane FWDs
>
> The Corvair was beautiful then and  still is, and a new "retro" version
would 
> be unique because it  would NOT have the antiquated FE/RWD package.
>
> A "retro"  Corvair would be beautiful in its own right, not just because
it 
>  looks like the car you had in high school.
>
> I get annoyed at  people who like the 60s Ford Falcons and put them in 
the 
> same  category as the Corvair, simply because they're "old" !
>
> The  Corvair is a "classic" for so many more reasons than other cars of
that  
> era !
>
> OK, I'm finished (for now)
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
> From:  <scottygrover at aol.com>
> To:  <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:13  AM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Modern Corvair vs. mundane  FWDs
>
>
> > He was possibly thinking of the Chrysler  Airflow (also DeSoto) which
is, 
> > to
> > my mind, one  of the ugliest cars around.  I don't think the Volkswagen
had
>  > come over at that time.
> > But the Tatra---the inspiration for  the VW, and better styled as well 
as
> > being aerodynamic--now  that's beautiful, if rather strange-looking, and
so
> > is   the '53 Studebaker coupe, which is still in demand for cars  trying
for
> > Bonneville records. Corvairs are, in their way,  aerodynamic--it's just 
> > that
> > the  prow wants to  ride higher when it should be digging in for more
air 
> >  flow
> > OVER  the car (like old-time battleships with the ram  on the prow.)
> >
> > Scotty
> >
>  >
> > In a message dated 1/19/2010 6:51:31 A.M. Pacific Standard  Time,
> > airvair at earthlink.net writes:
> >
> > And  as  far as modern cars being mundane, like Gordon Buehrig  (the
stylist
> > of
> > the  coffin-nose Cord) said  about it, "aerodynamics makes for lousy
> > styling."
>  >
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