<VV> Starter Mystery

Rick Norris ricknorris at suddenlink.net
Tue Jul 6 07:12:03 EDT 2010

Although probably not the problem I would check the battery cable where it 
passes through the firewall sheet metal. I have seen fires caused by the 
cable being cut by the sheet metal because the grommet is missing.

Rick Norris
#36 Sunoco Corvair

> This sounds like a case of back feeding the solenoid through the 
> distributor coil primary wiring bypassing the ignition switch.   May be 
> caused by overheated and failed wiring insulation.
> Ken P
> ********************************
> "Brian" <bmoneill at juno.com> wrote:
> I'm stumped!  Here's the story.  The car is a 1968 110 PG.  Three weeks 
> ago while
> the owner was going 65-70 MPH on the interstate, he began to hear a loud 
> knocking sound
> from the engine.  within a mile the engine had seized.  He pulled to the 
> side and turned
> off the ignition.  He then turned the key to the run position.  For just a 
> moment, the
> warning lights came on but hen the entire electrical system was out.  No 
> lights, nothing.
> The battery ground cable and some other wires were HOT!
> The car was flat bedded home.  About two hours later, the electrical 
> system again
> functioned.  Needless to say the engine was locked solid.  A tear down 
> showed number 6
> rod bearing welded to the crank.  A total rebuild followed.
> Before installing the engine, the oil system was primed and checked with a 
> guage,  It had
> more than 45 PSI at about 800-00 RPM using  a big electric drill.  The 
> engine turned
> freely and smoothly by hand.
> After installation, the engine was static timed.  When the starter was 
> used the engine
> turned over slowly as if the battery was weak. The mystery began when the 
> key was turned
> off and removed.  The starter continued to slowly turn the engine. Two 
> starter, a new
> ignition  switch and a new neutral safety switch failed to cure the 
> problem.  As the
> starter turns after the key is removed the battery negative cable get HOT!
> All types of tricks have been tried.  Disconnecting, the alternator among 
> other.  Nothing
> stops the starter from turning.  The car has a new engine compartment and 
> body wiring
> harness. It also has a new stater 'mini-harness'.  The car has a Pertronix 
> ignition.
> I'm stumped.  Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
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