<VV> Ignition : Porsche vs. Corvair firing order

Wed Jul 7 20:27:05 EDT 2010

Hmmm... Thanks for the info -

Porsche doesn't seem to be as well-balanced in its firing order as the Vair, being "corner, corner, corner, middle, corner, corner," as opposed to the Corvair's "corner, middle, corner, corner, middle, corner" ? 

Corvair looks like a good doubles tennis game than does the Porsche, but I guess there is something to it on the order of "form follows function" ?

Charlie
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  From: jvhroberts at aol.com 
  To: Chaz at ProperProper.com ; gojoe283 at yahoo.com ; virtualvairs at corvair.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:13 PM
  Subject: Re: <VV> Help! Ignition Messed UP - help proff-reading my links to Corvair ignition wiring ?

  Assuming the cylinders are numbered the same, on any horizontally opposed 6 cylinder engine, there are only 2 possible firing orders, one being the reverse of the other. 

  For a 911, here's the cylinder numbering:
  http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/911_valve_adjust/911_valve_adjust_pic1.jpg
  And the firing order is 1, 6, 2, 4, 3, 5. 

  John Roberts

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  From: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
  To: Bill H. <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>; virtualvairs at corvair.org
  Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 3:29 pm
  Subject: Re: <VV> Help! Ignition Messed UP - help proff-reading my links to Corvair ignition wiring ?

Right !

If you're used to inline-6 engines, that would have made sense, but not on 

Corvair !

Does Porsche use the same firing order ?

I makes more sense when the viewed from above:

http://www.yourbuyersinn.com/Cars/Corvair/FiringOrderComparison.htm

In this one I colorized the hard to follow in black-and-white manual 

drawings :

http://www.yourbuyersinn.com/Cars/Corvair/1965CorvairManual6Y-19.htm

Here I tried to put it all together a while back to see ignition, starter, 

etc all in one place :

http://www.yourbuyersinn.com/Cars/Corvair/CorvairIgnitionWiring.htm

I'd really appreciate it if you guys could proof read it for me to make sure 

it's right ?

It was pulled apart when I first did it, but maybe it needs to be updated ?

Hope it helps and thanks for any input you can afford me !

Charlie

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From: "Bill H." <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>

To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>

Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:39 AM

Subject: <VV> Help! Ignition Messed UP - Case of the Absent-Minded 

Professor,or ADD-afflicted Enthusiast

 B"H

I'd like to thank the great folks who responded to my ignition problem. One

thing I neglected, makes me embarrassed, but...

The left bank of cylinders turns out to be 2-4-6, NOT!!! 4-5-6. And the 

right

side is 1-3-5, NOT!!! 1-2-3...

You'd think it's pretty obvious, since the info is stamped on top of the 

turkey

roaster....

Lesson learned. Sometimes it's the simple things that you can slip up when

doing a complex task. As I was scratching my head looking at the engine bay, 

it

suddenly hit me. I re-did the wires, and she started up the first time...

Imagine installing A/C in, around, and under the car when it's 100 degrees

outside. There some sort of irony there...

Bill Hershkowitz 69 Monza 110 PG

> Hi all...I'm in the middle of installing A/C in my car, and so far, 

> everything

>that can go wrong, has gone wrong!

>

> Now somehow I messed up my plug wires and ignition wires. There is an

>insulated "resistor" wire, that goes on one side of the coil. Then I see a

>yellowish-gold wire, it came loose from its terminal and I can't figure out

>where this wire goes, but it looks like another ignition wire. Doesn't that 

>go

>on the coil also?

>

> Also, what's the best and easiest way to determine how to put the 

> distributor

>wires back correctly? I have the firing order right, and I've gotten the 

>notch

>on the vibration damper pulley within the timing scale on the block, but 

>I've

>tried to put both #1 and #2 wires at the terinal where the rotor's 

>pointing.

>The car backfires and almost starts, but won't.

>

> Help! And thanks everyone. Hope you're all having a great Forth!

>

> Bill Hershkowitz 69 Monza 110 PG

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