<VV> Contact Jay Leno

Mikeamauro at aol.com Mikeamauro at aol.com
Sun Mar 14 12:06:49 EDT 2010


I'm considering selling my pristine, restored 64 Spyder, and would like to  
see it go to a home where it might be viewed and enjoyed by others. I'm 
thinking  Jay's Garage would be a good fit. I looked at the Garage site, but 
saw no way to  contact Jay nor the proprietor. Can anyone supply an email 
address to Jay  Leno?
 
Thank you,
Mike Mauro
 
 
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1. Re: 60s economy ride (Chris & Bill  Strickland)
2. Re: Membership poll and effects to CORSA  members that are not
in a chapter (Tim  Verthein)
3. economy (MarPack57 at aol.com)
4.  Re: Membership poll and effects to CORSA members that are not
in a chapter(Humour) (Daniel Monasterio)
5. Re: Now  tires - a little Corvair (Ken Clark)
6. Re: Membership poll  and effects to CORSA members that are not
in a chapter  (Robby)
7. Re: Membership poll and effects to CORSA members  that are not
in a chapter (Tim  Verthein)
8. Re: Now tires - a little Corvair (Bill  Elliott)
9. Re: Synthetics Oil GM Engineer's Opinion (long)  (Mark  Durham)


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Message:  1
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:53:28 -0800
From: Chris & Bill  Strickland <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> 60s  economy ride
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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We had a Morris Minor dealership in  the town where I grew up , so they 
were quite common there in the late  fifties, early sixties -- and nobody 
bought a "new" car for economy, they  bought used cars 'cause they were 
less money, ie, more economical.   The mpg was not an economy 
consideration in those days, as gas was  insignificantly cheap, but the 
cost of the car and insurance was what made  it economical (or not), and 
little, used, low hp cars were way cheaper to  insure for a teenage son. 
A Vette would often have higher insurance  payments than car payments. We 
had a Chrysler New Yorker, and later, a Jag  sedan, for a family car in 
those days, plus a plethora of Morris Minors  (still own a Traveler), a 
DKW, and yes, a VW bug (which my sister rolled)  and a bit later, the 356 
Porsche that I now have via purchase (Dad wasn't  gonna just "give" a 
Porsche away, although it too was a used $400  "economy" car when he 
bought it).

If you bought a New Corvair, it  was because you wanted a new car, not an 
economy car, and thought that  rear engine to get around in the winter 
like the VW's was a good idea, but  you didn't want one of those tiny 
German cars -- after all, you landed on  the beach in Normandy and 
survived, and you didn't wnt to give the Germans  a second crack at you  
(recall, above, I described what my sister did  to the one VW Dad had 
bought ...).  Don't know how the Porsche got  through after that -- I 
think Mom thought it was "cute", and she could be  quite persuasive in 
those days, fully understanding the value of  "cute".

My first, and second, and third, etc, Corvairs were "economy"  cars -- 
bought in the early 70's for $25-$50, until I fell in love with  that 
Corsa dash instrument cluster and bought a drivable 140 '65 Corsa  coupe 
out of a wrecking yard for $200 (eeew - Big Spender), followed by a  
slightly wrecked 66 Corsa Vert 180.  By then I must've been thinking  I 
was rich -- paid $350, in installments.  Stilll less than Dad paid  for 
that Porsche ...

Bill  Strickland


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Message:  2
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:32:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Verthein  <minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Membership poll  and effects to CORSA members that
are not in a chapter
To:  virtualvairs at corvair.org
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Say, there's an idea too! Lets force all  members of CORSA who do NOT 
belong to their nearest chapter, to join!  If  you want to be in CORSA, you MUST 
be a member of your chapter also!

The  SBE (Society of Broadcast Engineers) is set up so when you join the 
SBE, you  are automatically able to join a local chapter at no cost (with a 
few minor  exceptions)  The SBE national organization pays a "rebate" of   
memberships dues paid to the national organization to the local chapters.  
Hmmmm.  Interesting idea perhaps?

TIB





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Message: 3
Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:57:17 EST
From: MarPack57 at aol.com
Subject:  <VV> economy
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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I had a 68 Chevy II/Nova in the late 80's with a 153  CI 4. Ran great but 
fuel milage wasn't anything to brag about, that little  engine could rev. 
Sold 
it to a guy who put the engine in a boat!!!! It had  both names on the car, 
NOVA on rear fenders and ChevyII on hood and  decklid. Ed in Fla


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Message:  4
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:26:00 -0800
From: Daniel Monasterio  <dmonasterio at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Membership poll and  effects to CORSA members that
are not in a  chapter(Humour)
To: <minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>,  VirtualVairs
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My place (Guadalajara) is at about  800 miles South of Texas border.... 
could you tell me which is the nearest  CORSA chapter to join it ?

Thanks

Daniel

> Date: Sat,  13 Mar 2010 14:32:08 -0800
> From: minoxphotographer at yahoo.com
>  To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: <VV> Membership poll  and effects to CORSA members that are 
not   in a chapter
>  
> Say, there's an idea too! Lets force all members of CORSA who do NOT  
belong to their nearest chapter, to join!  If you want to be in CORSA,  you 
MUST be a member of your chapter also!
> 

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Message:  5
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:33:56 -0500
From: Ken Clark  <kcvair at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Now tires - a little  Corvair
To: <bryan at skiblack.com>,  <hyarnell1 at earthlink.net>
Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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How old do you think a tire  should/must be replaced even if it isn't worn 
out?
My van tires(Michelin)  were made in '02, which may be getting to their 
limit.  Most Corvair  tires never get worn out if you drive less than 5M per 
year.  I thought  my Corvair tires were fairly new, but looking at the dates 
they go back to  '03..   Ken




> From: bryan at skiblack.com
>  Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:16:43 -0500
> To:  hyarnell1 at earthlink.net
> CC: VirtualVairs at corvair.org
> Subject:  Re: <VV> Now tires - a little Corvair
> 
> Here's what I  sent Joe:
> 
> Ellie's last F-150 had two sets of BFGs, the new  F-150 will get some 
later this year. Generally speaking BFG has become my  default tire brand. 
Decent price, performance, and wear - I don't particularly  want tires to last 
80k, due to the age cracking Joe mentioned. We got 50k out  of the tires on 
her truck, and 45 or so out of the T/As I put on the Neon. The  wagon is 
going to be riding on BFG g-Force Sports as soon as this weekend's  rain passes, 
my guess is we'll replace them due to age, not mileage. They are  a summer 
tire, but in all honesty the Corvairs just don't get driven much when  it's 
cold out and never really in the snow anymore.
> 
>  --Bryan
> 
> On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Harry Yarnell  wrote:
> 
> > Hey, keep me in the loop on truck tire options.  My '03 Silverado is 
going to 
> > need new shoes soon.
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Message:  6
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:07:15 -0600
From: Robby  <vintagevwbeetles at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Membership poll  and effects to CORSA members that
are not in a chapter
To:  Tim Verthein <minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>
Cc:  "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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See how many members you lose when you "force" them to do  something.   
I am 90 miles from the nearest chapter. I will not  join a chapter I  
will never attend a meeting  with

Robby

Sent from my Apple iPhone

On Mar 13, 2010, at  4:32 PM, Tim Verthein  
<minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>  wrote:

> Say, there's an idea too! Lets force all members of CORSA  who do NOT  
> belong to their nearest chapter, to join!  If  you want to be in  
> CORSA, you MUST be a member of your chapter  also!
>
> The SBE (Society of Broadcast Engineers) is set up so  when you join  
> the SBE, you are automatically able to join a  local chapter at no  
> cost (with a few minor exceptions)   The SBE national organization  
> pays a "rebate" of   memberships dues paid to the national  
> organization to the local  chapters. Hmmmm.  Interesting idea perhaps?
>
>  TIB
>
>
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Message:  7
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:37:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim Verthein  <minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Membership poll  and effects to CORSA members that
are not in a chapter
To:  virtualvairs at corvair.org
Message-ID:  <503069.54984.qm at web31004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Wow. I guess making that point was  pretty fast.  So.... there are members 
of CORSA who do not participate in  chapter activities do not belong to a 
chapter, do not pay chapter dues....  hence are not receiving the CORSA 
benefits to which they are entitled when  they join a chapter (e.g. these folks 
are not attending chapter events that  are covered by CORSA insurance, yet are 
paying for this coverage).  And  at the same time there are Chapter 
members, who do not join CORSA, and are not  taking advantage of CORSA events and 
benefits for which they opt not to pay  for by not joining CORSA. Huh. Seems 
like a wash to me. 

People don't  join a chapter because they don't want to participate in 
chapter events, it's  to far away, etc -- so they shouldn't be forced to join 
one.  Yet,  Chapter members who do not want to participate in CORSA events 
should be  forced to join CORSA?

Now, if you try to argue that CORSA members who  do not join a chapter are 
not really in any way chipping in for the cost of  Chapter benefits anyway, 
then you also can't argue that Chapter members who do  not participate in 
national events are getting benefits of CORSA.  

TIB

--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Robby  <vintagevwbeetles at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Robby  <vintagevwbeetles at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Membership  poll and effects to CORSA members that are 
not in a chapter
> To: "Tim  Verthein" <minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>
> Cc:  "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Date:  Saturday, March 13, 2010, 7:07 PM
> See how many members you lose  when
> you "force" them to do something.? I am 90 miles from
> the  nearest chapter. I will not join a chapter I will never
> attend a  meeting with
> 
> Robby
> 
> Sent from my Apple  iPhone
> 
> On Mar 13, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Tim Verthein  <minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Say,  there's an idea too! Lets force all members of
> CORSA who do NOT belong  to their nearest chapter, to
> join!? If you want to be in CORSA, you  MUST be a member
> of your chapter also!
> > 
> > The  SBE (Society of Broadcast Engineers) is set up so
> when you join the  SBE, you are automatically able to join a
> local chapter at no cost  (with a few minor exceptions)?
> The SBE national organization pays a  "rebate" of?
> memberships dues paid to the national organization to  the
> local chapters. Hmmmm.? Interesting idea perhaps?
> >  
> > TIB
> > 
> > 
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Message:  8
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:59:47 -0500
From: "Bill Elliott"  <corvair at fnader.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Now tires - a little  Corvair
To: "Ken Clark" <kcvair at hotmail.com>,  <bryan at skiblack.com>,
<hyarnell1 at earthlink.net>
Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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It depends on a number of factors (including sun  damage, etc... so a 
vehicle 
parked in garage may have tire that last  linger) but as a rule of thumb, a 
tire over 5 years old has lost a lot of  its original traction due to 
hardening and is more likely to have  structural issues.

IMO, a large part of the Firestone/Explorer issues  were due to the fact 
that 
tread life has been extended so long that the  tires are structurally 
questionable before the tread is gone.

I  have several cars with low mileage tires over 5 years old, but I 
wouldn't  
be comfortable driving them at high speeds for long distances or in a  
spirited manner that got near the performance margin... for Sunday  
cruising 
in dry weather they are likely okay.

Bill

-----  Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Clark" <kcvair at hotmail.com>
To:  <bryan at skiblack.com>; <hyarnell1 at earthlink.net>
Cc:  <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010  19:33
Subject: Re: <VV> Now tires - a little  Corvair


>
> How old do you think a tire should/must be  replaced even if it isn't 
worn 
> out?
> My van tires(Michelin)  were made in '02, which may be getting to their 
> limit.  Most  Corvair tires never get worn out if you drive less than 5M 
> per  year.  I thought my Corvair tires were fairly new, but looking at 
the  
> dates they go back to '03..    Ken
>
>
>
>
>> From:  bryan at skiblack.com
>> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:16:43  -0500
>> To: hyarnell1 at earthlink.net
>> CC:  VirtualVairs at corvair.org
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Now tires - a  little Corvair
>>
>> Here's what I sent  Joe:
>>
>> Ellie's last F-150 had two sets of BFGs, the new  F-150 will get some 
>> later this year. Generally speaking BFG has  become my default tire 
brand. 
>> Decent price, performance, and wear  - I don't particularly want tires 
to 
>> last 80k, due to the age  cracking Joe mentioned. We got 50k out of the 
>> tires on her truck,  and 45 or so out of the T/As I put on the Neon. The 
>> wagon is  going to be riding on BFG g-Force Sports as soon as this 
>>  weekend's rain passes, my guess is we'll replace them due to age, not  
>> mileage. They are a summer tire, but in all honesty the Corvairs  just 
>> don't get driven much when it's cold out and never really in  the snow 
>>  anymore.
>>



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Message:  9
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:36:08 -0800
From: Mark Durham  <62vair at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Synthetics Oil GM  Engineer's Opinion (long)
To: steveb <amsoilman1 at gmail.com>
Cc:  virtualvairs at corvair.org
Message-ID:
<cc6b0fc11003131836i4d6dd92fn702e1db904d37be9 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type:  text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Steveh, if you really want the scoop on  oils and the Corvair engine, Steve
Widman has done a great article that is  worth a  read.

http://www.widman.biz/uploads/Corvair_oil.pdf

regards   Mark Durham


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:51 AM, steveb  <amsoilman1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> John:
>   Who  is this ENGINEER you talk about? What are his credentials?Did you
> even  check out his VERSES of someones writings?This guy is out of his
>  league.Know possible real knowledge of the lubrication products. Please  
let
> myself know who this is and how can I contact him.Im just an  individual 
who
> like the truth not a collection of garb. I cannot  figure tha anyone in
> charge of a true forum would allow this kind of  propaganda on their 
site. I
> had faith in this side as I have visited  many times before as a guest. 
Thank
> you for your time and effort in  this matter.
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