<VV> Apology?

[Robby]

OK, so Harry made a mistake.  While he may be a PAID employee of CORSA, he
is also (1) human and (2) a member of CORSA so I say we cut him a little
slack.  He isn't the first person in CORSA to make a mistake!!   Also, your
original post made it appear that your group was the only one that he
deleted and implied that it was intentional.  While I agree that Harry owes
you an apology for deleting your group's stuff (which he has done), I think
you owe him an apology for implying to the group that he did it
intentionally.

But who I am to question it - I won't be a CORSA member in 60 days anyway so
guess it is a moot point for me

Robby

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Bill Hubbell <whubbell at umich.edu> wrote:

> Harry was messing around on the CORSA server and deleted EVERYTHING. He
> then ran a restore routine.  Harry did not even bother to tell us he had
> done this until WE discovered our site missing a few days later.
>
> He NEVER offered up a public apology until over a year later (and even then
> not until provoked) and then tries to deflect his responsibility by claiming
> that somebody else should have backed up the data which HE destroyed.
>
> A simple statement from Harry AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT to  the effect of
> "I'm terribly sorry.  What can I do to help fix the problem?" would have
> gone a long way to repair relations, but he never did that; instead he
> deflected the issue then just as he is deflecting it now.
> You all need to remember that Harry is a PAID employee of CORSA. You and I
> pay his salary. We pay him to help us; not to erase things and then shift
> blame
>
> Bill Hubbell
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robby <vintagevwbeetles at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:07:18
> To: whubbell at umich.edu<whubbell at umich.edu>
> Cc: Harry Jensen<hljensen at comcast.net>; Virtual Vairs<
> virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Apology?
>
> I am sure I will get blasted for this but sounds to me as if you
> failed to have the proper backup, suggested that Harry purposefully
> deleted it and then when he defended himself and apologized you
> weren't satisfied.
>
> Sounds like the issue is not the deletion by Harry but not being able
> to blame him without him defending himself
>
> Robby
>
> Sent from my Apple iPhone
>
> On May 4, 2010, at 1:16 PM, "Bill Hubbell" <whubbell at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > What I ASKED Harry for was a public apology for his role in
> > destroying the
> > SCG web site.
> >
> > I guess an "apology" with qualifications is all I am going to get -
> > sort of
> > like Laura Bush's apology.
> >
> >
> > Bill Hubbell
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
> > [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Harry Jensen
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:57 PM
> > To: Virtual Vairs
> > Subject: <VV> Fwd: Re: "Improved" Concours class
> >
> > Hi--
> >
> > Bill asked me to go 'public' with this message.
> >
> > --H
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject:    Re: "Improved" Concours class
> > Date:    Tue, 04 May 2010 09:14:59 -0500
> > From:    Harry Jensen Executive Secretary <corsa at corvair.org>
> > To:    whubbell at umich.edu
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi--
> >
> > [To you only.]
> >
> > On 5/3/2010 10:33 PM, Bill Hubbell wrote:
> >> Heck, for all I know, it is the reason Harry Jensen "accidentally"
> > deleted
> >> the Stock Corvair Group Website (and all back-ups) from the CORSA
> >> Server
> > in
> >> March of 2009, effectively killing all our momentum and setting us
> >> back
> > over
> >> a year.
> >
> > Let's talk about this for a minute.
> >
> > Harry deleted ALL of the databases on corvair.org. That means the
> > member
> > database with the chapter records and all associated records, SCG
> > database, and any other databases that were out there. And for that
> > I am
> > profoundly sorry.
> >
> > I reconstructed the member database and associated tables from the
> > backups. There were no backups for the SCG database or at least no
> > data
> > in the backups. Harry had nothing to do with the backups. Bryan wrote
> > the script for the backups. And Marissa did not have a backup.
> >
> > While you can blame me for deleting the SCG database, blaming me for
> > the
> > backups or lack of is unwarranted.
> >
> > --H
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > |--------------------------------------------------------------
> > | Harry Jensen  mailto:corsa at corvair.org
> > | CORSA Executive Secretary
> > |
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> > | http://www.corvair.org
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