<VV> Apology?

[Harry Jensen]

Hi--

I would like to respond to Bill's accusations.

Below is a message to Marissa regarding the SCG DB. I did not know that 
the SCG database was wiped until I saw her note.

One has to understand that there is no graphical interface on the 
server; it is all command line, and Linux command line at that. I was 
doing some maintenance and I got a switch wrong, which deleted all of 
the databases. The SCG database was setup in a separate MySQL server 
instance. And I still feel bad about it today.

Secondly, no one except Bill very recently asked for a public apology. 
When he did, I responded immediately.

And finally, although Mike and I do work for CORSA, we are not 
employees. You can think of us as vendors or contractors. But there is 
no where in my contract that we are supposed to setup databases for 
chapters or SIGs. I did so because Kent, Marissa, Sam, and Bill are 
friends and SCG seemed like a worthy cause.

--H



-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Jensen, Executive Secretary [mailto:corsa at corvair.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:54 PM
To: Marissa Andolino
Cc: 'Bryan Blackwell'; Bill Hubbell; 'Hubbell', 'Bill'; 'Kent Sullivan'
Subject: Re: SCG Database and Website - Problem

Hi Marissa--

It is my fault. I was working on moving the CORSA database into the
'main' subdirectory and I mistakenly erased all the databases. I did
restore them, but just now I looked at the SCG database and it did not
restore. I feel terrible. I am so sorry.

Maybe Bryan has some 'magic' he can work.

--H


  On 3/17/2009 8:54 PM, Marissa Andolino wrote:
>>  Bryan or Harry,
>>
>>  It has been a couple of weeks since I last looked at the SCG site
we are
>>  working on, but what happened? Tonight, I went to the site and there is
>>  a database error. The database is gone!
>>
>>  Did you have a disk drive problem or something? Can you restore our
>>  database?
>>
>>  *Marissa*
>>

*-*-*-*-*

On 5/4/2010 4:17 PM, Bill Hubbell wrote:
> Harry was messing around on the CORSA server and deleted EVERYTHING. He then ran a restore routine.  Harry did not even bother to tell us he had done this until WE discovered our site missing a few days later.
>
> He NEVER offered up a public apology until over a year later (and even then not until provoked) and then tries to deflect his responsibility by claiming that somebody else should have backed up the data which HE destroyed.
>
> A simple statement from Harry AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT to  the effect of "I'm terribly sorry.  What can I do to help fix the problem?" would have gone a long way to repair relations, but he never did that; instead he deflected the issue then just as he is deflecting it now.
> You all need to remember that Harry is a PAID employee of CORSA. You and I pay his salary. We pay him to help us; not to erase things and then shift blame
>
> Bill Hubbell
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robby<vintagevwbeetles at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:07:18
> To: whubbell at umich.edu<whubbell at umich.edu>
> Cc: Harry Jensen<hljensen at comcast.net>; Virtual Vairs<virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: Re:<VV>  Apology?
>
> I am sure I will get blasted for this but sounds to me as if you
> failed to have the proper backup, suggested that Harry purposefully
> deleted it and then when he defended himself and apologized you
> weren't satisfied.
>
> Sounds like the issue is not the deletion by Harry but not being able
> to blame him without him defending himself
>
> Robby
>
> Sent from my Apple iPhone
>
> On May 4, 2010, at 1:16 PM, "Bill Hubbell"<whubbell at cox.net>  wrote:
>
>> What I ASKED Harry for was a public apology for his role in
>> destroying the
>> SCG web site.
>>
>> I guess an "apology" with qualifications is all I am going to get -
>> sort of
>> like Laura Bush's apology.
>>
>>
>> Bill Hubbell
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
>> [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Harry Jensen
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:57 PM
>> To: Virtual Vairs
>> Subject:<VV>  Fwd: Re: "Improved" Concours class
>>
>> Hi--
>>
>> Bill asked me to go 'public' with this message.
>>
>> --H
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject:    Re: "Improved" Concours class
>> Date:    Tue, 04 May 2010 09:14:59 -0500
>> From:    Harry Jensen Executive Secretary<corsa at corvair.org>
>> To:    whubbell at umich.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi--
>>
>> [To you only.]
>>
>> On 5/3/2010 10:33 PM, Bill Hubbell wrote:
>>> Heck, for all I know, it is the reason Harry Jensen "accidentally"
>> deleted
>>> the Stock Corvair Group Website (and all back-ups) from the CORSA
>>> Server
>> in
>>> March of 2009, effectively killing all our momentum and setting us
>>> back
>> over
>>> a year.
>>
>> Let's talk about this for a minute.
>>
>> Harry deleted ALL of the databases on corvair.org. That means the
>> member
>> database with the chapter records and all associated records, SCG
>> database, and any other databases that were out there. And for that
>> I am
>> profoundly sorry.
>>
>> I reconstructed the member database and associated tables from the
>> backups. There were no backups for the SCG database or at least no
>> data
>> in the backups. Harry had nothing to do with the backups. Bryan wrote
>> the script for the backups. And Marissa did not have a backup.
>>
>> While you can blame me for deleting the SCG database, blaming me for
>> the
>> backups or lack of is unwarranted.
>>
>> --H
>>
>