<VV> BYE!

Wed May 5 18:49:39 EDT 2010

JR - Ted, and all- Let me be a "jerk" once again and point this out -

    Ted, I'm not picking on you - this is a prevalent attitude between
millions that use the internet, including many on this list.

    You joined the list because you were looking for free information and
"help". But it's worth what you pay for (Like everything else) and
there will always be nonsense and monkey business on most lists - BUT,
as JR pointed out - there are also people on this list who can
actually help you.

    What does it take to avoid the noise? A simple click of a button on
your part. Yet, as so many others have also said, you don't want
anything that annoys you in your search for free useful information.
To put a finer point on it - all the folks who maintain the list, put
valuable information on, have an obligation to not annoy you with
stuff you're not interested in.

    I guess entitlement is what makes the internet go round and is rapidly
becoming our national philosophy.

    VirtualVairs is created, maintained and financed by many people. The
moderators control how "free" the list will be. Because neither you or
I put a dime into a subscription we really have no right to demand
it's rules or content.

    And if the list is not "meeting your needs" then you have every right
to try and persuade it to change or leave. As an additional
observation, JR (who I have know personally for years and is a great
guy) felt it was necessary to try and talk you out of leaving. That's
because he means well. Heck - a lot of times I mean well too.

    But how backwards have we become on the 'net? I've learned over the
years that the harder you have to convince someone to let you do a
favor for them the less they will probably appreciate it in the end.

    Like I said, I don't know you Ted - You're probably a fine guy who is
most welcome here. Not at all like some clown who should be promoting
his business instead of writing letters like this one.

Lon


> Ted,
>
> VV has more helpful people on it than you can imagine.  For example, the
> current Communique (monthly CORSA magazine) contains an article (with
> pictures) of several VV members joining forces to move a Corvair from
> Florida to New Jersey in time for a Christmas surprise.  It was a
> cooperative effort on the part of those VV members with no compensation
> for
> that effort.
>
> This was not the first time that VV members came together to make
> something
> GOOD happen!
>
> If you know any CORSA members, ask one to let you borrow the May 2010
> issue.
> I'm sure it well help you re-think your decision.
>
> Sincerely...
>
> Later, JR
>
> CCE CORSA CORVANANTICS SCG member
> '61 Rampside Standard 4/110
> '65 Monza Convertible 4/140
> "Keep the Love Alive"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ted Duke" <teduke at embarqmail.com>
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:07 AM
> Subject: <VV> BYE!
>
>
>> Robby,
>>
>> Just to let you know what I think.  I signed on to this group yesterday
>> because after many years of Corvair ownership I now have the time and
>> the
>> money to work on my stock 1960 - 700 (49,000 miles) and hoped I could
>> learn something from the list.  But, of course, like almost every other
>> list, it has degenerated into a gripe session of un-civil discourse.
>> Therefore, I'll seek information elsewhere as it isn't worth putting up
>> with the non-Corvair related posts to try to get to something
>> interesting.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 20:34:17 -0500
>> From: Robby <vintagevwbeetles at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Concours-
>> To: Virtual Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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>> I would hate to think what a newbie to the group thought of all this
>> bickering.  And we wonder why the Corvair hobby is dying - crap the
>> current owners can't even get along !!!!!
>>
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