<VV> BYE!

Daniel Monasterio dmonasterio at hotmail.com
Wed May 5 18:53:46 EDT 2010


Well said Lon.... I agree with you.

Daniel

> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 15:49:39 -0700
> From: corvairs at pacifier.com
> To: hmlinc at sbcglobal.net
> CC: virtualvairs at corvair.org; teduke at embarqmail.com
> Subject: Re: <VV> BYE!
> 
> JR - Ted, and all- Let me be a "jerk" once again and point this out -
> 
>     Ted, I'm not picking on you - this is a prevalent attitude between
> millions that use the internet, including many on this list.
> 
>     You joined the list because you were looking for free information and
> "help". But it's worth what you pay for (Like everything else) and
> there will always be nonsense and monkey business on most lists - BUT,
> as JR pointed out - there are also people on this list who can
> actually help you.
> 
>     What does it take to avoid the noise? A simple click of a button on
> your part. Yet, as so many others have also said, you don't want
> anything that annoys you in your search for free useful information.
> To put a finer point on it - all the folks who maintain the list, put
> valuable information on, have an obligation to not annoy you with
> stuff you're not interested in.
> 
>     I guess entitlement is what makes the internet go round and is rapidly
> becoming our national philosophy.
> 
>     VirtualVairs is created, maintained and financed by many people. The
> moderators control how "free" the list will be. Because neither you or
> I put a dime into a subscription we really have no right to demand
> it's rules or content.
> 
>     And if the list is not "meeting your needs" then you have every right
> to try and persuade it to change or leave. As an additional
> observation, JR (who I have know personally for years and is a great
> guy) felt it was necessary to try and talk you out of leaving. That's
> because he means well. Heck - a lot of times I mean well too.
> 
>     But how backwards have we become on the 'net? I've learned over the
> years that the harder you have to convince someone to let you do a
> favor for them the less they will probably appreciate it in the end.
> 
>     Like I said, I don't know you Ted - You're probably a fine guy who is
> most welcome here. Not at all like some clown who should be promoting
> his business instead of writing letters like this one.
> 
> Lon
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Ted,
> >
> > VV has more helpful people on it than you can imagine.  For example, the
> > current Communique (monthly CORSA magazine) contains an article (with
> > pictures) of several VV members joining forces to move a Corvair from
> > Florida to New Jersey in time for a Christmas surprise.  It was a
> > cooperative effort on the part of those VV members with no compensation
> > for
> > that effort.
> >
> > This was not the first time that VV members came together to make
> > something
> > GOOD happen!
> >
> > If you know any CORSA members, ask one to let you borrow the May 2010
> > issue.
> > I'm sure it well help you re-think your decision.
> >
> > Sincerely...
> >
> > Later, JR
> >
> > CCE CORSA CORVANANTICS SCG member
> > '61 Rampside Standard 4/110
> > '65 Monza Convertible 4/140
> > "Keep the Love Alive"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ted Duke" <teduke at embarqmail.com>
> > To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:07 AM
> > Subject: <VV> BYE!
> >
> >
> >> Robby,
> >>
> >> Just to let you know what I think.  I signed on to this group yesterday
> >> because after many years of Corvair ownership I now have the time and
> >> the
> >> money to work on my stock 1960 - 700 (49,000 miles) and hoped I could
> >> learn something from the list.  But, of course, like almost every other
> >> list, it has degenerated into a gripe session of un-civil discourse.
> >> Therefore, I'll seek information elsewhere as it isn't worth putting up
> >> with the non-Corvair related posts to try to get to something
> >> interesting.
> >>
> >> Ted
> >>
> >>
> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 20:34:17 -0500
> >> From: Robby <vintagevwbeetles at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: <VV> Concours-
> >> To: Virtual Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> >> Message-ID: <A3C3C948-8C82-444E-8EB5-8E248AB97FC0 at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >>
> >> I would hate to think what a newbie to the group thought of all this
> >> bickering.  And we wonder why the Corvair hobby is dying - crap the
> >> current owners can't even get along !!!!!
> >>
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